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mhariush 05-01-2014 09:53 PM

Color Code LX 1987 944 S
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1399009979.jpg

GreenWater 05-01-2014 09:57 PM

This is just one reason why I want to make this list. So we can have an actual answer to the light grey/linen discussions. (with pictures, and codes)

I know for sure that LQ is light grey, it's the same color as my 87, and many, many other 944.

As for calling it light grey. Well, that's a far stretch of the imagination. If you find some of the interior that's never seen sunlight, you can see just a hint of grey.

For all intents and purposes, it's Tan, or Light Tan

mhariush 05-01-2014 10:01 PM

Can't find any pictures, surprisingly, of my black S interior. But it's black, and the option code is LT. 1987 944 S.

GreenWater 05-01-2014 10:04 PM

Yep, Burgundy is one of the easy ones. But you are right, LX

My 85.5 is burgundy and it has the color code LX.

This is great, you have a lot of the colors and color codes. Please keep them coming.

GreenWater 05-01-2014 10:04 PM

Right once again, I've got black listed as LT

GreenWater 05-01-2014 10:06 PM

I need linen, brown, and champagne. Also light grey seems to have more than one color code, which is interesting.

marko 05-02-2014 03:38 AM

Here's a pic of the light gray (hell grau) script along with the tag I found inside. It also has a part number. 91152163406NZ3. It is interesting that the unexposed script cloth is tan/beige while the exposed script has faded to gray. This is from a 81-84 sport seat.

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps972cc2ab.jpg
http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps6faa344c.jpg

mhariush 05-05-2014 08:48 PM

EB Black Script Seats Color code

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1399351700.jpg

GreenWater 05-05-2014 08:53 PM

It's a little hard to tell from the picture. But is it a black interior with grey script seats? Thanks for the color code.

mhariush 05-05-2014 10:19 PM

I updated the post. It''s black script seats. Not my car, saw someone post pictures of it and the option code. He said it was black, but yeah, looks kind of grey :)

Ky914Newbie 05-06-2014 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenWater (Post 8044721)
I need linen, brown, and champagne. Also light grey seems to have more than one color code, which is interesting.

I posted a champagne example on your other thread on Rennlist. Do you need me to post my champagne (PE) here also?

jeff968 05-06-2014 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenWater (Post 8050534)
It's a little hard to tell from the picture. But is it a black interior with grey script seats? Thanks for the color code.

Black interior, partial cloth script, the code is AB.

GreenWater 05-06-2014 11:33 AM

KY914Newbie, Thanks, I forgot about the RL posting. I didn't have my account set to send me an email when someone posted, but I do now. I grabbed the picture of your car and added it to my list. Thanks very much. It looks great. I thought the color code was PE, but now you confirmed it.

Hey Jeff968, thanks for the info. What year is your car, and what color script seats do you have. We have a black interior with black script seats and the code was EB, but there could be more than one code for that color.

kdjones2000 05-06-2014 01:49 PM

Greenwater, I am with you regarding the Gery/Beige vs. Linen discussion, after looking at this over the years.

For the record my car is an '88 with XP interior code, and is the same basic color as in the '87 924S shown here with XP interior code. Look in my garage to see the color.

I am reasonably confident that this is the "Grey Beige" color most have been mentioning as Light Grey, and is the same or very close to the LQ from earlier years.

Only on the '89's and up do the colors get really light to basically an off-white color, which as far as I can tell is "Linen".

I think that Porsche did some renaming of things after '88, so where what they started calling "Light Grey" in '90 is closer to the "Linen" color of '89, but it gets confused with the "Light Grey" of '86 which is entirely different.

With all of that said, I did a color match with some swatches from Automotion and the one that matched most closely to my "Grey Beige" seats was what they called "Linen"...

jeff968 05-06-2014 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenWater (Post 8051592)
Hey Jeff968, thanks for the info. What year is your car, and what color script seats do you have. We have a black interior with black script seats and the code was EB, but there could be more than one code for that color.

GreenWater,

My car is a 1992. It is outfitted with the full leather package (code VD) which included leather seats front and back, dash, door panels, console, the works, and cost $5K back in 1992.

Code EB is the code for full Porsche script cloth seats in black meaning that the bolsters as well as the inserts are made of the cloth, everything you sit on.

Code AB is the code for partial Porsche script cloth seats in black meaning only the inserts have the Porsche script and the bolsters are done in leatherette.

The full cloth seats are much rarer.

Also, look for cars with option code 526. This got you the Porsche script cloth on the door panels! Very rare.
Jeff

GreenWater 05-07-2014 10:24 AM

Hey Jeff,

Thanks for the info, but your car is a 968. The interior color code list that I'm making is for the 944. It seems like there is more info out there for the 968 and none for the 944, but thanks for the help.

Are the AB and EB codes for the 944, it seems like they are, and that's a big help. Thanks

Nice car by the way

jeff968 05-07-2014 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenWater (Post 8053167)

Thanks for the info, but your car is a 968. The interior color code list that I'm making is for the 944.

Greenwater, since we are all relatives over here :) you'll find many common traits including interior codes. Note a few posts back that bealum posted his black leather interior 86 944 has code LT. That is the same code used for black partial leather for all 4 years of the 968. If it is the same interior, especially in the later years of the 944, the codes are shared. Now, if it is a different and unique interior (color) for the 944 then of course, different codes.

mhariush 05-07-2014 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeff968 (Post 8053204)
Note a few posts back that bealum posted his black leather interior 86 944 has code LT. That is the same code used for black partial leather for all 4 years of the 968.

My 87 S that I listed as LT is partial leather in black. Leather seats with vinyl back. and vinyl rear seats

GreenWater 05-07-2014 02:58 PM

Thanks Jeff, yes we are all friends here, I just want to make sure that I'm not getting mixed up with the 2 different cars. I have no idea if the color codes are the same, or if they are different. That's why I just wanted to focus on the 944. I would think, logically, that the color codes should be the same between the two cars, but you just never know. I just wanted to play it safe.

I do thank you for your help, it's awesome. Keep it coming guys. The list is starting to actually look like a list now.

kdjones2000 08-12-2015 05:31 AM

So I obtained some samples from GAHH, an OEM interior restoration shop, of both their Linen and Grey Beige. My '88 951 has the XP interior designation, which some have called one of the two names.

I also have a sample of the Linen from Automotion (the only color that they offer), and it is pretty much the same as the Linen from GAHH.

Here are the color comparisons, with the Grey Beige swatch being the darker of the two:

Door panels:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...psmqxanp9w.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...psnkbe1y5o.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ps7kphcra8.jpg

Rear Seats:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...psfi1auhts.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...psxumambup.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...psb1frgfyh.jpg

The seats in my car have been replaced by some from another car (don't know for sure which), so are close but have more of a red tint than the originals:

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ps8fraobi2.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...psgkxengzs.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...pskfwejyxs.jpg

So in conclusion I think it is pretty obvious that Linen is too light of a color for the '88 and earlier cars, other than when the sun bleaches out the grey beige and makes your interior look like Linen. The '89+ cars are indeed Linen, however.

jeff968 08-12-2015 05:41 AM

We just released the new PCA 968 register site a few weeks ago.

This page should provide plenty of detail on interior codes from the 968 years:

Interior Codes / Statistics | Porsche 968 Register

Enjoy.

944 Ecology 08-12-2015 06:36 AM

Nice job... very helpful! Bookmarked!

GreenWater 08-12-2015 10:15 AM

KdJones2000, From the information that I have gathered, interior color code "XP" normally mean "Light Grey" with Porsche script inserts. So your seats might have been changed out because you no longer have the fabric Porsche script inserts. But those seats do look like "light grey" to me.

And from the pictures it does look like your car is what Porsche calls "light grey" Which is actually a beige color.

If you are looking for seat covers for your car then we now sell them, and the color you are looking for is called "Greige". We are happy to send you a sample for free. Email or PM me your address.

944 Seat Cover

kdjones2000 08-12-2015 11:52 AM

Thanks for the information, but I want to correct you on one thing.

1) XP does not mean "Light Grey" with Script. I have my original seats, and they are partial leather. I consider pre-'89 Light Grey and Grey-Beige to be the same, as I have not found any differences between the two in my past 10 years looking into this. You might have more information, not sure.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenWater (Post 8750292)
KdJones2000, From the information that I have gathered, interior color code "XP" normally mean "Light Grey" with Porsche script inserts. So your seats might have been changed out because you no longer have the fabric Porsche script inserts. But those seats do look like "light grey" to me.

And from the pictures it does look like your car is what Porsche calls "light grey" Which is actually a beige color.

If you are looking for seat covers for your car then we now sell them, and the color you are looking for is called "Greige". We are happy to send you a sample for free. Email or PM me your address.

944 Seat Cover


GreenWater 08-12-2015 01:36 PM

Interesting. The interior color codes are weird in the 944. As far as I can tell, there is not an exact meaning for each, but most of the time they mean something.

From the past examples that I have been given, "XP" means light grey with porsche script, but it doesn't mean it's that all the time, I guess.

Yes, what Porsche calls "light grey" is not actually grey or light. lol. It's actually grey-beige. This is what confuses a lot of people. They look up the color code and it says their interior is light grey, but when they look at it, it's grey-beige, or tan looking.

GreenWater 08-12-2015 01:39 PM

I'm confused, you said "The seats in my car have been replaced by some from another car (don't know for sure which), so are close but have more of a red tint than the originals:"

Do you have the original seat in your car or have they been changed?

kdjones2000 08-12-2015 06:08 PM

I have both sets. Sometimes it's cheaper and easier to buy used seats rather than spending $1500 on new covers.

jeff968 08-13-2015 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenWater (Post 8750571)
The interior color codes are weird in the 944. As far as I can tell, there is not an exact meaning for each, but most of the time they mean something.

From the 968 site:

the 968 buyer had 98 different interior configurations to choose from. when it came to outfitting a new 968 with an interior, the purchaser had 3 decisions to make: 1) color, 2) material, 3) configuration – and that resulted in 98 choices. A unique interior code was assigned for each one of those combinations and used by the dealer when ordering a new 968.

Not sure if it was the same for the 944

GreenWater 08-13-2015 06:40 AM

kdjones2000, Ok, I see. It's always interesting to find out more information about the 944 interior color codes. And by the way, out seat covers start at $340 and look and feel darn good, if I do say so myself. lol.

jeff968, It's great that you guys have that complete list. That's what I was trying to make for the 944 community but wasn't receiving enough help from others. From looking at the 968 list it looks like they used different codes than they did for the 944. I would assume that each color code meant a certain combination, but I just don't know for sure. There isn't enough data out there yet to say one way or another. It's also tough because you never know what the previous owner has done to the car. Because the cars are so inexpensive, people like to do all kinds of crazy things to them.

I am still collecting 944 interior color code information if anyone still wants to help out.

jeff968 08-13-2015 10:20 AM

GW,

Yes, you have much more of a challenge in front of you. When I assembled the 968 list I only had 4 years to deal with and the usage of codes was standardized by that time. Granted, there were a lot of them! You've got twice the number of model years and it looks like things changed along the way. That said, I think towards the end of 944 production there is some similarity with the 968s so you'll have some overlap.

Good luck
Jeff

944uk 08-13-2015 11:44 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1439494890.jpg

Black and Oxblood

GreenWater 08-13-2015 12:09 PM

944uk, nice! Do you know the color code for your car? And the year? Thanks

kdjones2000 07-03-2017 07:39 PM

Here are some references for colors available from the aftermarket guys like Automotion.

My car is the LQ interior code, 1988. This is the commonly called "Grey-Beige" or "Lt. Grey" color on the pre-'89 cars. I received some samples of the colors closest to the interior color. Here is a comparison directly on my interior pieces:

Door panels:
https://s26.postimg.org/upret8wtl/IM...psmqxanp9w.jpg

Rear seats:
https://s26.postimg.org/p2v1vruax/IM...psfi1auhts.jpg

Front seats (These seats are not the original to the car, and are a slightly different color):
https://s26.postimg.org/8zn69pi5l/IM...ps8fraobi2.jpg

The darker color, which matches much more closely to the OEM, is called "Linen" by Automotion.

FrenchToast 07-03-2017 08:29 PM

Courtesy of RėL, for 1984 MY.

I highly doubt Porsche would over-write a code with a different color, purely to avoid confusion. In other words, these codes would presumably apply to cars thru the eighties and probably into the nineties.

(All else being equal, I imagine a Cashmere interior has a different code than a Champagne interior....)

kdjones2000 07-04-2017 05:06 AM

And here's a comparison of the kick panel carpets from an '88 Grey-Beige car and ones I got from an '89 Linen car in the local Porsche junkyard:

https://s26.postimg.org/z1bf4iecp/10...psf3a78a4a.jpg

https://s26.postimg.org/9wker3ew9/10...pscc323616.jpg

Northof944 07-08-2017 01:42 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1499550032.JPG
How rare is this? A white 84 with brown leather/cloth interior; not my choice of interior, but I found my car with it!

FrenchToast 09-07-2017 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northof944 (Post 9654849)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1499550032.JPG
How rare is this? A white 84 with brown leather/cloth interior; not my choice of interior, but I found my car with it!

Cloth is fairly uncommon in the U.S. market. So it is fairly rare. As for exact numbers I have no idea. I would guess ~10% of North American cars have cloth?

Kwazii 04-14-2020 10:19 AM

Does anyone know what XQ is? It's from an '86 turbo and I haven't been able to get a definitive answer. I need to get carpet and some other interior parts and would like to know the exact color.

GreenWater 04-14-2020 02:28 PM

I'm still slowly gathering more and more color codes, and I'm FAR from having them all yet. So far I don't have XQ color code. But I do have QX. QX is what Porsche called "light gray" which is really a tan/beige color. I would be interested to know what XQ is. Can you post a picture of your interior/seats?

Kwazii 04-15-2020 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenWater (Post 10824601)
I'm still slowly gathering more and more color codes, and I'm FAR from having them all yet. So far I don't have XQ color code. But I do have QX. QX is what Porsche called "light gray" which is really a tan/beige color. I would be interested to know what XQ is. Can you post a picture of your interior/seats?

At first I guessed it was Linen, then learned that wasn't available in '86. Here are a few bad snapshots. I can get some good color balanced shots tomorrow if need be.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1586992264.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1586992264.jpg
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1586992264.jpg


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