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Engine removal
Hi I wanted to know if it's possible to remove a 16 valve motor out of my 944s from the top? Most of the engine removals I've seen on the forum are done by lifting the car on jacks, and sliding it out. My car is on the grass on a slope I don't have any level hard surface. But I do have a engine lift. Need ideas help.
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Join Date: May 2001
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Easiest removal of an "S" engine for me was when I cut the front of the car off with a Sawzall.
(bought the car wrecked from an insurance auction. Lotsa great parts) |
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Lol even I thought of that. Ok I will rephrase engine removal from the top without damaging the rest of the car
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Join Date: Apr 2011
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Yes, and you don't even have to remove the hood.
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You need to use a piece of chain and shackles you move to differant spots to get the angle in and out,I marked these spots with coloured zippy ties for referance on the refit,worked a treat. You do NEED to have the car high in jack stands to get underneath however,I did both ends (of course) and keep it nice and level (please be careful) no one will tell you its easy but when you fire the engine up for the first time its and epic beer moment ![]() ![]()
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Hah easy to remove that,it kinda gets in the way
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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removing the hood makes it easier, along with the power steering/ac pulleys, and radiator. comes right out.
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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I'm a fan of pulling from the top but I would not try it on grass on a slope.
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Andrew Gawers' Dad
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Yeah, I didn't catch the grass and on a slope. I wouldn't pull an engine on grass or a slope from top or bottom.
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I pulled my S engine from the top. I had already pulled the radiator, intake, head, and all accessories off first, though. 968 went back in, with head on, no intake or accessories, from the top as well. Hood was on. Front was on stands, back was on the ground, giving a little better angle with the hood, I think...
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Andrew Gawers' Dad
Join Date: Apr 2011
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When I did mine from the top I only removed the header and fans. Everything was still connected including the bell housing.
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I am about to swap the engine on my S2 cab. I was planning on doing it from the bottom but based on what I am reading in this thread I am going to try from the top and save having to take out the suspension / crossmember etc. I think I will remove the radiator to make some extra room.
Since you are leaving the rack and suspension in place no need for an alignment after the swap. Bonus! |
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Yes thanks so much for all the ideas and replies, the best part is I'm gonna take my time I was selling the car as a parts car or restoration but I'm just gonna part it out. And have some one take the carcass when I'm done. Thanks so much.
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I find it's easier and faster to take it out the top. On one 951 rebuild, I found the rear crank-seal sitting on the bench AFTER I had put everything back together and was about to fire it up!
With air-tools, I was able to have it back out again in about 1.5-hrs.![]() Removing radiator helps, but most of the time, I just remove the crank-pulley and other items. Since it's typically a blown-engine that gets pulled, I start the disassembly in the car by removing:
Then the engine short-block goes back in and the above list in reverse order. Manipulating the engine is very simple with hoist+leveler. It's hangs and is stable because the weight & COG is below the hoist. With the engine perched on top of a creeper or tranny-jack, it wants to topple over all the time. Especially when you start pulling it out. |
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Lowering the engine out should be done using a crane onto a piece of thick plastic such as double wall and then its easy to drag the engine out from underneath
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A piece of hard board (masonite), shiny side up, and a piece of shag carpet - pile down - makes it very easy to slide the engine in and out from under the car.
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I remember not having a clutch alignment tool so i did the clutch pressure plate up thru the starter hole in the bellhousing ,worked out ok,remember the exhaust flange bolts being a real PITA to get done up.
![]() Going out the bottom never made any sense to me,didn't that idea come from the truely awful haynes book on the model ,to me it was like having your head removed to fix a tooth cavity![]() ![]() .
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1985 944 2.7 motor,1989 VW Corrado 16v,57 project plastic speedster t4 power,1992 mk3 Golf,2005 a4 b7 qt avant 3.0 tdi,1987 mk2 Golf GTI,1973 914,2.2t to go in. Past cars, 17 aircooled VW's and lots of BMW's KP 13/3/1959-21/11/2014 RIP my best friend. |
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