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Engine lifting snag

Just starting to lift my 32v engine out. I have an auto trans. The service manual says to remove the 4-bolts attaching the bell-housing to the engine block, remove the 6 bolts securing the drive plate, loosen the bolt securing the splined flange and slide it back on the drive shaft.

It then says to remove the 2 bolts holding the transmission in place and then slide the bell housing back 5 or 6mm.

At this point, the bell housing is still attached to the torque tube and the torque tube is still attached the the transmission, so I guess the whole assembly should slide back as one., but it will not move at all even with the back wheels off the ground.

The bell housing does not appear to be stuck to the block so I thought lifting the engine slightly would separate the two, but it’s not coming apart. Lifting the engine is putting stress on the torque tube, which I don’t suppose is a good thing.

What am I missing?

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Sounds like you have covered all the bases. I know you said the bellhousing didn't appear to be stuck to the block, BUT can you see the flywheel if you are viewing the engine from the top side? My guess is that you can barely see it. The block has locator pins for the bellhousing. When the engine comes off those locator pins, you will have about 2-3 inch gap between the bellhousing and engine. My best guess is that the bellhousing is still slightly stuck to the locator pins.
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Sounds like you have covered all the bases. I know you said the bellhousing didn't appear to be stuck to the block, BUT can you see the flywheel if you are viewing the engine from the top side? My guess is that you can barely see it. The block has locator pins for the bellhousing. When the engine comes off those locator pins, you will have about 2-3 inch gap between the bellhousing and engine. My best guess is that the bellhousing is still slightly stuck to the locator pins.
+1 It floats pretty freely once it's off those pins (with in a small area)
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The block has locator pins for the bellhousing. When the engine comes off those locator pins, you will have about 2-3 inch gap between the bellhousing and engine. My best guess is that the bellhousing is still slightly stuck to the locator pins.
How long are the locator pins? Should having the rear of the car raised enable everything to slide back 5 to 6mm?

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3/4 inch maybe, I never slid anything back when I did mine, there was plenty of room for the motor to come out forward
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is it possible that you removed the wrong bolts at the transmission,

the bolts that have to be removed are the ones that anchor the trans mounts to the cross member.
in a dark work area its easy to remove the cross member to chassis bolts instead of the mount bolts.
Put a 2x4 under the TT at the front short cross member so it stays close to its original position.

Also make sure that the exhaust pipes are not preventing the trans from sliding back the rear muffler may have to be removed to give more clearance
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+1, Stan IS the man,
great thread, good luck with it and a photo or 2 would be appreciated.
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is it possible that you removed the wrong bolts at the transmission,

the bolts that have to be removed are the ones that anchor the trans mounts to the cross member.
in a dark work area its easy to remove the cross member to chassis bolts instead of the mount bolts.
You nailed it! On the driver's side I had removed the correct bolt but on the passenger side I had indeed removed the wrong one. That bellhousing was never going to move.

The correct bolt was obscured by the parking brake cable. Pleased to say that the bell housing is now separated from the engine block.

Stan most definitely is THE man. Thanks to all who responded.

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Although this is not mentioned in the service manual, I found removing the 4 bolts holding the torque tube to the bellhousing was also necessary.

The engine is now out. Now the real fun begins!




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