It can if my wife finds out we went there. Mines Psycho in that way :eek:

You poor poor man. [/shaking head]

My first wife was kinda like that. I really don't miss her.

;)

My wife goes WITH me and my son (6 years old) to Hooters. They have awesome food there, IMO.

I could totally say that. "The Food is why I go to Hooters, but the Grin always gives me away."

WTH how come I never met you guys in SD? Except Brandon. You're like the only one that knows where I used to live. :D

I voted for ya! Although aafter all the abuse do you want to go back there?

44 no votes seems like its still kind of ugly there, but I've never had a problem ignoring negativity. As it is now all images or other files hosted on rennlist are blocked, and that makes many helpful threads impossible to follow. I'd like to be able to read some of those threads with some chance of understanding them.

I thought I would check in and see what was being said over there on the other forum. Looks like "Grinch" is asking for a 75% approval rating on the Poll. Such bonehead rules they throw around over there. Anyways, I know your just looking for picture viewing, but sheeesh.

Someone on rennlist asked that I make a statement to help the newer people that joined rennlist after I left, so here goes, anybody that wants to and can feel free to repost it.

I don't think any owner or enthusiast should be permanently denied access to the information stored on rennlist.

That 45 people are voting no, is disappointing. I think it reflects poorly on them to be so petty after more than a year. If that is not how you feel rennlist should be or be represented, vote against them.

I just logged in for the first time in a year or two to vote yes. It's a movement!

You're right that an enthusiest shouldn't be denied access out of shear negativity but that's the spirit of RL brought to you by its founder and it's trickled down and become the atmosphere. Ugh. Don't take it personally.

I need to go find some pictures of soft, fuzzy kittens to make up for having just spent my time there.:)

I'm just sad CAShark isn't around to vote once or twice for ya!

Fuzzy kitten picture coming up ....

If this doesn't warm your heart, don't know what will ..

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1244680555.jpg

Hell Yea!!!! Better to face your adversaries. :D

I have no doubt if the poll was public, there would be less than 5 "no" votes.

Don't worry about the numbers. Things were pretty whack when you left. I actually think it is pretty impressive that so many people are speaking up for you. ;)

I don't really care what the others think, as long as they conduct themselves like adults. As everyone should.

Mike, I know I have been short with you in the past, the how when or why isn't important but I do regret having been less than civil at times. After all, we are all enthusiasts, we all love the same car, and we should have more patience with one another's idiosyncrasies -- we all have them. Even though there were some http://members.rennlist.com/sharkski...-BangHead1.gif moments there I always felt like your heart was in the right place. You wanted a 928 and you wanted to make it "yours".

I for one am glad you came along, I find that these days I am much more patient when newbies come along and ask crazy questions. :D I am not sure if you intentionally stirred the pot at times, but stir it you did. :p Everyone deserves a second chance -- sometimes that second chance isn't wanted -- but I voted for you to have one nonetheless.

Even if you decide not to ever post there again, I hope the ban is lifted so you can make the choice yourself to post or not.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...s/beerchug.gif

Mike, there seems to be some questions by the current mods regarding why you were banned. Bob Roleu asked that you email him and explain what happened. Can you do that without being a member or user?

PM me his email and I can send him an email directly.

I was never told why I was banned, and I don't think I ever violated any of the terms of service. All of the pm's between RandyV and myself at the time were about how, not if I would continue, changing the account name etc.

The "danglerb." stuff popped up, and a moderator should have known from the IP who was doing it, but instead "danglerb." was allowed to post anonymously for about a week. My impression is that a number of older members who didn't understand IP addresses blamed me and complained directly to JohnD.

When some of the "danglerb." posts were finally deleted, so were some of mine, and I was informed that all of my posts were now to be monitored and edited or deleted at RandyV's discretion. That led to an especially nasty thread of abusive personal attacks directed at me, that was allowed to run its course without restriction.

I decided if I was going to get second class treatment being a member instead of a user was meaningless, and I asked for a refund of my membership fees. 15 minutes later I was banned.

Someone made a video for you. Listen closely. :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw0A_DkGZCA&feature=player_embedded

I'm not entirely convinced the attack additude is a 928 forum problem but a "R list" problem. I attempted to ask some "simple" questions in the Cayenne forum over there. I was immediately assalted by a bunch or know nothing warrantee weinee's. Same deal as when I was attacked by an admin on the 928 board over there. WTF? Can't we all get along? I'm sure some of the no votes came from some of the same small minded guy's that constantly stir up trouble and would bet some were from guy's that thought a no vote was just funny without any thought to the consequences. I'm on several other boards including this one. The additude of rudeness and mightier than thou is not tollerated or accepted.

Thanks for being curteous all.

"know nothing warrantee weinee's" LOL

I love that.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/wat3.gifhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/clap.gifhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/clap.gifhttp://forums.pelicanparts.com/support/smileys/clap.gif

Still a few votes short, the hotel sprinklers are doing much better than I am.

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/928-forum/505016-bring-back-danglerb.html

"All that is necessary for the forces of evil to win in the world is for enough good men to do nothing." -- Edmund Burke

sent you a pm

Edit: Is your pole closed? Did they hold you to the 75% Did they let you back in?

I haven't heard anything, can't tell if the poll is closed or not, but last message I read in the thread said it was closed when I looked just now.

Let me know if you see smoke coming out of the chimney.

I have deployed a super secret weapon. Maybe it's bad shark repellent... LOL "Bad shark, no bitting!"

Hell this thread got me to log in over here for the first time in 4 years. I wasn't a participant in the Danglerbacle, but I'm definitely against lifetime banning for anything short of outright illegal behavior. And I just wanted to say to anyone who doesn't like Rennlist, there are idiots everywhere and they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Don't even bother. I for one have never had any issues with Rennlist and I've always found it to be a friendly place about the cars. The clique comments amaze me, never seen even a hint of that and I've been around longer than most, back to PorscheFans.

Come on back, water's fine. I voted.

I am still a bit amazed that some people think nothing has changed for me in two years. I don't really have any questions I want Rennlist to answer for me. I just want to see the pictures and diagrams in the technical threads, and be able to PM some of my non Pelican friends.

No need for drama, but sometimes Rennlist does not have a drama optional check box.

Thanks again for all your efforts on my behalf.

OK, 65 votes. the pole stands at 90.28. This could be an omen..

The thing is, the 75% mark was totally arbitrary.

Since Gretch is the main mod over there right now, if he doesn't want Mike back, Mike will probably not be back. I'm familiar with message board politics and understand why the rules are made this way, but as Mike points out he's got no access to rennlist photos right now. Making people join and log in to get photos is a weenie move, but not on topic here.

My point is that rennlist is not a democracy so no matter what the vote is if the admins don't want him back, he won't be back.

Ya, Notice the admin input on this is nil..

I removed all my quotes just in case.

I have the upmost respect for Mike. Best of luck with whatever you/they decide to let you do. :)

Todd

I made a poll to suggest they ban me as well. Very low voter turnout for me. That may be worse than not getting 75%.

NO problemo...

Gee why go to rennlist when I can see the same behavior right here?

Leo, Todd, out of the mud please. ;)

Good point Mike. Just brings up bad memories. My bad. I'll delete my entries if Rich would be so kind as to remove my quote. Thanks Rich.

Todd SmileWavy

When I saw that thread I double checked the post to see if it was by "BrendanC."

I suspect RL is just in crazy days mode, like some colleges have a week in the spring of mischief where decorum is relaxed.

You know Mike, you're kinda like the Salman Rushdie of the 928 world!