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XLR8928 04-04-2010 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SolReaver (Post 5276653)
Yea, there is a REASON that they are reminiscent of aircraft. They are Descended from Luftwaffe Technology. All those german engineers had to do SOMETHING after WWII and building high performance sports cars was just the ticket. The meticulous level of detail and unnerving precision of the components is not unfamiliar to aviation technicians. IF you treat it like an aircraft, you are much better off.

A peek under the cowling of a WW II German fighter plane will convince you that a LOT of the components are similar. The Germans were first with a lot of technical innovations at the time and why re- invent the wheel? A primitive version of the K jet used in OBs was the first FI used in a production fighter and it out performed the spitfires the British used in certain maneuvers when the Spitfires floats in the float bowls failed due to G forces and choked the engine. (trivia buffs take note)

German Aircraft were technologically advanced, however, they were too few in number and required levels of maintenance excessive by military standards and required great numbers of mechanics to keep them in the air. (sound familiar?)

Look at the fittings, the wiring, the lines and the streamlined styling. These things are part Mesherschmit, Part Fokke Wulf, and Part Junker. OK some are more Junker than others.;)

I thought BMW's were decended from aircraft (the roundel is representitive of a spinning propeller). I think Dr. porsche designed kubelwagens, and tanks.
-K

Maleficio 04-04-2010 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by XLR8928 (Post 5276722)
I worked on SR-71's and U2's back in the day (avionics). As I recall, the SR leaked way more than my 928. Got out in '80, and yes, I'm that old.:D
-Kerry


You worked on these jets!? :eek:

http://chandrakantha.com/articles/in...1966_sr712.jpg

Maleficio 04-04-2010 06:46 PM

SolReaver, in your sig, you say: "Try not to break more than you fix."

This is exactly the phrase my maintenance Master Chief says every morning before we go to work (plus a little bit of profanity).

:D

Maleficio 04-04-2010 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolReaver (Post 5276653)
Yea, there is a REASON that they are reminiscent of aircraft. They are Descended from Luftwaffe Technology. All those german engineers had to do SOMETHING after WWII and building high performance sports cars was just the ticket. The meticulous level of detail and unnerving precision of the components is not unfamiliar to aviation technicians. IF you treat it like an aircraft, you are much better off.

A peek under the cowling of a WW II German fighter plane will convince you that a LOT of the components are similar. The Germans were first with a lot of technical innovations at the time and why re- invent the wheel? A primitive version of the K jet used in OBs was the first FI used in a production fighter and it out performed the spitfires the British used in certain maneuvers when the Spitfires floats in the float bowls failed due to G forces and choked the engine. (trivia buffs take note)

German Aircraft were technologically advanced, however, they were too few in number and required levels of maintenance excessive by military standards and required great numbers of mechanics to keep them in the air. (sound familiar?)

Look at the fittings, the wiring, the lines and the streamlined styling. These things are part Mesherschmit, Part Fokke Wulf, and Part Junker. OK some are more Junker than others.;)


Fascinating stuff. :cool:

SolReaver 04-04-2010 08:49 PM

Sig
 
Yea, it is a Paraphrase of What your chief says and I adopted it (and the bit about make and model) in my sig as a tribute to SoCalDriver, who helped me out of a couple of tough spots. It is not too surprising that a Lot of us have a background in aviation. It takes a certain kind of person to work on these cars.

XLR: Yes, Dr Ferdinand Porsche was in the Kubelwagen project One of the few openly discussed efforts of the time. During the war the project was given low priority and allocated a small amount of manpower and resources. After the war It turned out that literally Thousands of engineers claimed to have worked there. If YOU worked in a factory that made ME-109s, or Stuka dive bombers, what would YOU put on YOUR resume? The Engineers who designed the cars and the systems were decidedly experienced and German. Exactly where they worked and what they did is not really clear as in Deutchland people try not to speak of "the Natzi time" It is a cultural thing. BMW was an aircraft company, the spinning prop logo is just that.

The v-12 engine in my jag is a scaled down Merlin fighter engine as well. A LOT of work went into designs and research for speed. Decades later it trickled down into the auto industry.

XLR8928 04-05-2010 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Maleficio (Post 5276746)

Yes Sir, I did. I was stationed at BAFB, Ca. Got out in 1980.
-K

Maleficio 04-05-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by XLR8928 (Post 5277793)
Yes Sir, I did. I was stationed at BAFB, Ca. Got out in 1980.
-K


:cool:

XLR8928 04-05-2010 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolReaver (Post 5276932)
Yea, it is a Paraphrase of What your chief says and I adopted it (and the bit about make and model) in my sig as a tribute to SoCalDriver, who helped me out of a couple of tough spots. It is not too surprising that a Lot of us have a background in aviation. It takes a certain kind of person to work on these cars.

XLR: Yes, Dr Ferdinand Porsche was in the Kubelwagen project One of the few openly discussed efforts of the time. During the war the project was given low priority and allocated a small amount of manpower and resources. After the war It turned out that literally Thousands of engineers claimed to have worked there. If YOU worked in a factory that made ME-109s, or Stuka dive bombers, what would YOU put on YOUR resume? The Engineers who designed the cars and the systems were decidedly experienced and German. Exactly where they worked and what they did is not really clear as in Deutchland people try not to speak of "the Natzi time" It is a cultural thing. BMW was an aircraft company, the spinning prop logo is just that.

The v-12 engine in my jag is a scaled down Merlin fighter engine as well. A LOT of work went into designs and research for speed. Decades later it trickled down into the auto industry.

E type Jags with V-12's have always been a favorite of mine. (way expensive though). I've often threatened my wife with dragging a XJS home. -Kerry

SolReaver 04-05-2010 03:34 PM

Cats on the brain
 
XLR: You cold get one. The XJS and the XJ-12 are wonderful cars. For short money you can get a nice XJ6, which is better as a daily driver. If you don't mind working on them (a lot) they are beautiful machines. My family has forbidden me from owning another E series as I get a little obsessed. Yes folks there are cars out there that make the 928s seem downright logical and rational. However, for all there faults, there is really nothing that corners like an E series. (not better, just different) As good as the power on the 928 is...you just can't beat a 6 liter (or more) v-12. (more is better...right?) If you get one, your friends may not hear from you for weeks. Like the 928, you just have to keep on plugging until you get it all to work right. Also like the 928 there are a LOT of wrecks and deferred PM out there. Oh, and you will swear that all the rubber and hoses came from the same factory because it all crumbles like we are used to.:rolleyes:

Maleficio 04-06-2010 01:51 PM

I bought it.

MPDano 04-06-2010 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Maleficio (Post 5280235)
I bought it.

Der 928?

Maleficio 04-06-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MPDano (Post 5280268)
Der 928?

Das.

Maleficio 04-06-2010 02:29 PM

What's German for "yes"?

SolReaver 04-06-2010 02:39 PM

German
 
Ya, = yes

Das is zer gut..(that is good)

Zu habst der schoen auto...(you have the nice car)

Es ist hella zonneshise...(The sun is shining brightly)

More Deutche gesperchen later. If you intend to work on it you might need to know some choice phrases. ;)

Maleficio 04-06-2010 02:51 PM

I pick it up tomorrow. It's about 30 miles away. Drove it again today, it's even better the second time around. :D

Landseer 04-07-2010 03:29 AM

This is great news!
Need more Pictures!

Maleficio 04-07-2010 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Landseer (Post 5281250)
This is great news!
Need more Pictures!


ok :)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1270645113.jpg
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1270645154.jpg
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cwiert 04-07-2010 05:23 AM

that is one clean looking car! Congrats!!! :cool:

Landseer 04-07-2010 05:52 AM

Dayyummmm! Well done.

MPDano 04-07-2010 06:13 AM

Looks real clean and well taken cared of. A little sun faded in the rear carpet but easily remidied. Is the Front Seats recovered? Vinyl or Leather?

Let's see the engine now.


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