paint job

[dkkim81]

Although this might be looking too far ahead (since I have suspension problems and a non-functioning a/c), how much should I look to spend on a new paint job? Btw, how much should I look to spend on re-doing the interior? The seats have a couple holes that the previous owner just patched over with some hard glue. And although this is totally depending on my budget, how much is too much to spend on my 928 S????

[Mrmerlin]

you need to supply more info about your car,
year ,
model,
, options ,
stick ,
auto??

[Danglerb]

Interior is cheap, good used stuff maybe $2000 to $3000 depending on specifics, around $5k for new materials, nice paint maybe $15k. Depends on how much less than factory quality paint you are ok with.

[bwmac]

My car is straight and clean. To dismantle trim, remove doors and glass. Paint it inside and out, I was quoted $12,000

here Joey's Place Custom Paint and Restoration - Home

[dkkim81]

Are you kidding? How much would a factory type paint job cost??? 15k??? That is pretty expensive...I was thinking like 2 or 3 grand at most. How much should re-doing the seats be for some soft leather?

1984 Porsche 928 S
Black exterior, Black interior
Unsure of what options are standard???

[bwmac]

you get what you pay for. An insurance job, yes $3000. a restore your baby pro paint job color change takes a lot of hours to remove all the parts.

He also showed me all the little black rubber between the fender and bumper and all the seams that are impossible to tape. he removes all the glass so that the rubber around the windows get paint under them not on them.

[Mrmerlin]

in the grand scheme of things it pays to shop around to find a car with the colors and options you want.
Yes it may cost more to buy a car that already has nice paint but as you can see a paint job if its done correctly can cost more than the car

[tmpusfugit]

$12k sounds a bit strong pricewise to me...but, in order to properly paint one of these, the glass needs to come out, and that process is distructive to the glass seals, requiring new rubber. Also the trim and seals around the doors and hatch needs to come out, also frequently distructive. Also much or most of the interior needs to be removed, as well as the bumper covers front and rear. Also, the bumper covers need special paint additives to add flex to the paint, which of course complicates color matching and the like. And the bumper cover trim is actually applied to the bumper covers using what appear to be office staples (what was Porsche thinking on that approach?) but requires stainless steel staples.... a lot of hours and replacement trim/rubber seals etc. are extremely expensive. Better to buy a car not needing paint.....or plan to do a lot of work yourself in the removal, prep, and reinstallation of "stuff" and pay the painter only to paint....

also, I have owned two repainted 928's, and both of them appeared pretty well done when repainted, but I do not want to even think about the various atrocities done by the painters in ripping out interior panels without unbolting attachment points, or cutting wires on the side lights and reconnecting them with twist ons, or cutting all the wires into the doors so the doors could be removed and then butt connectoring them back together,or only rewiring one horn, or not reconnecting the driving lights, or cutting the headlight torque tube in half with a hack saw and then butt welding it back together rather than properly dissassemble it, or the number of parts that were now held on with one screw or nut, where there originally been 2 or more....

[Danglerb]

Regardless of price, you have to include all the paint jobs that for one reason or another get screwed up and are flawed right away or deteriorate from 30 days to a year or so after painting, and the only REAL recourse is to paint again.

To get a better idea on interior costs take a look at Rob Budd and Paul Champagnes web sites. Both of them do a LOT of 928, so generally speaking will be both better and cheaper than places with less experience.

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[dkkim81]

I was browsing through the internet and came up on pearl paints and candy paints. Would either of those work with the 928? Have you ever seen any 928s with that type of paint? What exactly are the stock colors from the 80s? Did the 90s have brighter or more unusual paint colors?

[Mrmerlin]

www.landsharkoz.com click on colors you will find out all of the colors used

[Danglerb]

My parts car was candy apple red, very pretty at 10 to 20 feet. Standing next to it unfortunately it was a parts car from the poor paint job.

[dkkim81]

Is it true that people just paint the candy coat on top of the old paint? Or was it just a crappy paint job to begin with? I was thinking of something shiny like that? However, classic black is nice, especially if i could get a nice shine to it after painting it. After years of lack of care from previous owners, the paint by the side of the doors is faded, the top near the sunroof is faded and a couple parts along the side of the hood are chipped. Would candy or metallic paint be better?

[MPDano]

I likey that car Mike!

[XLR8928]

Originally Posted by Danglerb

My parts car was candy apple red, very pretty at 10 to 20 feet. Standing next to it unfortunately it was a parts car from the poor paint job.

Looks better than my car. Well at least I got the hood

[sonett3]

12,000 is not a bad price in getting your car painted... There is a lot of work to take everything off and put everything in Bag,s,, Block sand, Strip the hood to get all of the chip,s out of it, self etch prime the bare metal then primer it and primer the hole car, Block sand again , primer, Wet sand ect ect ect ect ect ect ect

[Danglerb]

My 84 Euro S, the one pictured, originally was Indusrot, guards red. As far as I can tell most or all of the original paint stayed on the car, including IIRC one white door, and I think it was somehow painted metallic orange with the red semi transparent over that. Except for areas where the paint was coming off like the edges the effect was very nice, but nothing close to the really DEEP look of some of the factory paint.

Upside of the $12k paint job is not only a nice looking car, but now it has fresh rubber all around.
Downside is that I have seen a couple premium paint jobs that had minor to serious issues from 30 days to 2 years after painting. Not all shops would be happy to fix what might only b e annoying to a Porsche owner.

[sonett3]

Well the factory paint on cars, They only put on a little just to get coverage now,, So the factory paint is very thin. The new paints that after makets has will out last the OEM if prep ed and sprayed the right way.

[dkkim81]

Do those quick paint job shops like Maaco, One-day paint and body and Earl Scheib do really bad paint jobs? Aren't all shops supposed to sand over the car and then re-paint the car? Is it because these quickie shops probably do not take the time to remove all the parts before painting?

[tmpusfugit]

Originally Posted by dkkim81

Do those quick paint job shops like Maaco, One-day paint and body and Earl Scheib do really bad paint jobs? Aren't all shops supposed to sand over the car and then re-paint the car? Is it because these quickie shops probably do not take the time to remove all the parts before painting?

You are kidding, right? The only way I have ever seen one of those 'el cheapo jobs work is when the car is completely and properly prepped by the owner, all removalable parts removed, wheel wells masked off, glass removed, interior masked off also by the owner, and the manager is paid extra (think at least double) to "do a good job". Then, plan on doing a lot of buffing, touch up, and reinstallation of everything your self. Also be prepared to live with a bit of (or a lot of) orange peel, some runs, some thin paint areas, and many things you didn't want painted, painted. Other than that they do a really great job!