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ok let's bleed the clutch ..where do I start ??

Okay I want to bleed the clutch on my 82 928 so where do I start ? ( new to the 928 and don't want to mess it up) .....

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First bleed the brakes, to get fresh fluid to them, then bleed the clutch, make sure you have fresh fluid in the reservoir, i suggest to use the ATE super blue racing fluid.

Then get a piece of hose about 4 feet long attach it to the LF brake caliper bleeder the other end goes to the slave nipple, with a helper push the brake pedal and open the caliper bleeder, do this till the hose fills with fluid then attach it to the slave nipple then open the slave nipple and bleed the brake . this will push fresh fluid into the clutch system all the way up to the reservoir, dont over fill it a few bleeds should put fresh fluid into the clutch system with minimum loss of fluid
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anyone got pics of this as I have no clue where the slave is ? ?
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Then get a piece of hose about 4 feet long attach it to the LF brake caliper bleeder the other end goes to the slave nipple, with a helper push the brake pedal and open the caliper bleeder, do this till the hose fills with fluid then attach it to the slave nipple then open the slave nipple and bleed the brake . this will push fresh fluid into the clutch system all the way up to the reservoir, dont over fill it a few bleeds should put fresh fluid into the clutch system with minimum loss of fluid
Wish I had though of that, sounds much easier than removing the cat then bell housing to get the slave cylinder out without damaging/removing the line and then backbleeding by pushing the slave pushrod back into its bore.

gibson36, you can see the slave cylinder in this photo, as viewed from the passenger side. The slave cylinder is just opposite the starter, you can see the bleeder screw on it.

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okay .... so can't I just pump the clutch and use the bleeder ? ? insted of doing all that other stuff .? also where is the clutch master or is it run off the brake master ? ? ? also thanks for the pic it helps ...
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You need to start by getting a workshop manual.

This is not a camaro that you plod through.
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Opel if that picture is from your car i would suggest that you rerout the wires that connect to the starter they are not in the correct position.
One piece of road debris will quickly remove them from the starter
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try to make the wires look like this


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Gibson you asked how to bleed the clutch this is the quickest way to have successful results,
otherwise it is quite easy to go through a few liters of brake fluid with out removing all of the air in the clutch
The clutch MC is just above the clutch pedal mounted to the front side of the fire wall .
stick your head under the dash to see if the push rod is adjusted correctly, and that its not weeping fluid.

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You need to start by getting a workshop manual.

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okay I will get a manual . thanks again guys ...
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They are online. Do some searching, I know its been discussed a bunch.

But the key is to start reading. Lots and lots written to help you. Some here, much more on Rennlist.

And if you really want to do yourself a favor, get the CD set for $75 from Rog100.

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ok so bleeding the clutch did no good ? ? ( yes i did it your way ) still same thing if i pump the clutch it will go in to gear with little to no problem the master and the slave are NOT leaking at all I drove it around town with no real trouble But I can't find 5th ? ? ? it's like its not even there ... I have seen cars blow 1-4 racing and speed shifting but never 5th ?
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you may have to adjust the shifter.
there is a 13mm bolt that clamps the shifter rod to the flexible joint,
its just above the front of the transaxle,
with the shifter in neutral loosen the bolt,
Then have a helper hold the shifter centered and then tighten the clamp bolt
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just a note if your having problems with the car,
it would be best to post a question that gives as much info as possible about what is or is not working and what the last few things are that you fixed, this will let others know how to offer assistance
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I generally have to release air from the clutch master from inside the car, unclipping the retaining ring at the firewall and letting part of the piston enter the passenger compartment, burping out the air, then quickly re-seating and re-clipping it.

Might not work for an old cylinder if rusty inside.
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Ah, thanks for catching that Mrmerlin, I have been meaning to post a question about that but could never remember to do so. So the wires go above the swaybar and ontop of the steering rack undertray? Do you think I will need to remove the starter to accomplish that?
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Opel, no to removing the starter.
But yes to removing the wires from the starter,
make sure the wires dont rest on the sway bar.
as the the bar moves when the car is in motion ,
and will rub through the insulation and cause a major short
as usual disconnect the battery first
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thanks again, I knew something wasn't right, as the PO had the wires zip-tied to the bottom of the starter.

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