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MPDano 01-07-2011 12:15 PM

Non-Stock Rims? Input?
 
What do you guys think of these? From a Porsche Cayenne 17x7.5 53 Offset

Will they work? I do know we are stock 65 in offset.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1294434850.jpg

Jon B. 01-07-2011 01:08 PM

I wouldn't just because that's what we actually have on our Cayenne. I think they would look really funny personally.

There is mega brake room though!

MPDano 01-07-2011 01:16 PM

How about these Cayenne Turbo II Wheels in 18? ET 57

http://www.dragtimes.com/images-clas...0558995999.jpg

Pete R 01-07-2011 01:17 PM

As long as they are under 8.5 wide the 53 will work body, fender wise, I dont know if it will clear the brakes or if there will be centercap issues.
What's the width of the 18 @57 8.5 your good. 9 you may hit your front fender. Stock ride height may still work bit will be close to creaping out of the body work and again brakes or centercap may be an issue

MPDano 01-07-2011 01:19 PM

Cayenne Turbo II's are 8" Wide

Pete R 01-07-2011 01:24 PM

The 8 @ 57 will work. Sometimes the grease cap doesn't allow the center cap to to push on with certain wheels . I'd test fit front before throwing on a set of tires.. it will insure brake clearance too'

Jon B. 01-07-2011 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete R (Post 5770237)
As long as they are under 8.5 wide the 53 will work body, fender wise, I dont know if it will clear the brakes or if there will be centercap issues.
What's the width of the 18 @57 8.5 your good. 9 you may hit your front fender. Stock ride height may still work bit will be close to creaping out of the body work and again brakes or centercap may be an issue

Highly doubt the brake fitment will be an issue. All the Cayenne's have the big six-piston calipers.

MrGST 01-07-2011 01:39 PM

They would probably look ok but all stock Cayenne wheels are HEAVY. Ride and handling on a 928 would suffer...

MPDano 01-07-2011 01:39 PM

Just saw a few pics of someone OB 928 running the Cayenne 18's with a 57 Offset and they looked real good. Although heavier since it's really built for an Off Roader SUV, but I think they may be a great alternative. For some reason, I am seeing a lot of Cayenne Wheels in the Ads.

Pete R 01-07-2011 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon B. (Post 5770269)
Highly doubt the brake fitment will be an issue. All the Cayenne's have the big six-piston calipers.

I suspect your correct. but I could only speak for sure about the offsett

MrGST 01-07-2011 02:19 PM

Leo...check out stock Panamera wheels. They are probably still a bit heavy but the front and rear offsets are good.

MPDano 01-07-2011 02:24 PM

Heck, I gotta buy the $100K Car to get the Rims from a Panamera. Lot's of Cayenne choices though.

MrGST 01-07-2011 02:47 PM

Here's one example:
Set of Porsche Panamera OEM 18" silver 10-spoke wheels - eBay (item 400181093194 end time Jan-13-11 17:15:14 PST)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1294444026.jpg

MPDano 01-07-2011 04:47 PM

Nice find Glen. $600 for a set of 18's with a great offset for the 928. Have me thinking now.

Fischer_76_911S 01-08-2011 02:32 PM

Or these that I picked up.....Pd $700 shipped. All brand new, really well packaged and I played with them today (test fit). I think they'll look real sharp. Went 18x10 rear and 18x8 front. Bob http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1294529411.jpg

Fischer_76_911S 01-08-2011 02:33 PM

"How about these Cayenne Turbo II Wheels in 18? ET 57"

I do really like those too....

MPDano 01-08-2011 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fischer_76_911S (Post 5772186)
"How about these Cayenne Turbo II Wheels in 18? ET 57"

I do really like those too....

I did too, but when I called the seller a couple hours later, they sold it. Snooze I lose. You wouldn't believe how much they were selling a set of 4 for. I was an absolute steal and should have jumped on it. Anyways, they are nice lookers but very heavy, so I don't feel "too" bad for missing out.

lfausty 01-08-2011 05:24 PM

Non- stick rim ? -- i can link you to the technical data sheet, how to properly care for your non-stick and/or purchase of a must extended warranty. Input? --no offset spacer required bolt on ready. Thats choice!! no brake dust cleaning.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1294539175.jpg

MPDano 01-10-2011 07:09 PM

Would this be too large in the rear?


Front: 8JX18, offset: 50. Tire size: 225/40ZR18.

Rear: 11JX18, offset: 45. Tire size: 295/30ZR 18.

Fischer_76_911S 01-11-2011 06:40 AM

As you know, the fronts are fine. Your question was the rear. See this link:

Porsche Wheel Fitment and Offset Guide


It is (according to the link) possible to fit an 18x11, but I think your offset may be an issue. I can tell you my 18x10 (65) are really close on the backside on my 928. I do not have any spacers in the rear. I might have to add a 1" spacer to bring my rims away from the suspension. That should "center" the wheel and max out my fender clearance at the front of the rim. I believe I read somewhere that 928's came stock with spacers in the rear? If so, mine are missing. Bob

MPDano 01-11-2011 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fischer_76_911S (Post 5777112)
As you know, the fronts are fine. Your question was the rear. See this link:

Porsche Wheel Fitment and Offset Guide


It is (according to the link) possible to fit an 18x11, but I think your offset may be an issue. I can tell you my 18x10 (65) are really close on the backside on my 928. I do not have any spacers in the rear. I might have to add a 1" spacer to bring my rims away from the suspension. That should "center" the wheel and max out my fender clearance at the front of the rim. I believe I read somewhere that 928's came stock with spacers in the rear? If so, mine are missing. Bob

I was looking at some Wheels/Tires from a Carrera 4 Widebody. I also saw a post somewhere, where they put an 11 inch rear. It was very close, probably need to roll the fender. Yes, the offset is what is in question. I wonder if I can find that 11 rear post?

Pete R 01-11-2011 07:28 AM

Keep in mind the company that posted that offset guide also sent me 2 sets of rims that stuck out of the body work of my car, much like the "ghetto rims" but not quite as bad. (they made good.. so they aren't shady, just lacked knowledge on 928's) The car pictured has 11@ 45et on it. You will be right at the edge. May have to roll the fender, it's so close rear camber may be the difference between rub or not.

MPDano 01-11-2011 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete R (Post 5777189)
Keep in mind the company that posted that offset guide also sent me 2 sets of rims that stuck out of the body work of my car, much like the "ghetto rims" but not quite as bad. (they made good.. so they aren't shady, just lacked knowledge on 928's) The car pictured has 11@ 45et on it. You will be right at the edge. May have to roll the fender, it's so close rear camber may be the difference between rub or not.

What car pictured?

Pete R 01-11-2011 08:10 AM

If you scroll down Porsche Wheel Fitment and Offset Guide It shows a black 928 with that size rim on it

MPDano 01-11-2011 08:41 AM

Ah................


928 78-85 Can use all of the narrow body wheels from 993-986-996-997 50mm -65mm et front and 48mm - 65mm et rear. 1981 to 1984 cars have 21mm spacers in the rear. These can be removed to fit some wide body wheels. (18x10 40mm 18x11 45mm) You may still need to do some fender mods depending on the tire size.
Most extreme fit 18x10 et65mm front and 18x11 et45mm-63mm. The 18x11 et63mm wheel fits nicely on the rear with a 285/30/18 tire. 19"s fit very nicely on the car

18x8et 50mm and 18x11et 45mm below

http://www.wheeldynamics.net/IMG_1991%20(Medium).JPG

928 86-91 Can use all of the narrow body wheels from 993-986-996-997 50mm -65mmet front and 48mm-65mm et rear. Some manual 89gt cars have 17mm spacers in the rear so you may have to chuck them when using wider wheels and tires
Most extreme fit 18x10 et65mm on all four corners. The 18x11 et63mm wheel fits nicely on the rear with a 285/30/18 tire. 19"s are possible

18x8et 50mm and18x10et 65mm below

http://www.wheeldynamics.net/928%20carrera.jpg

928 GTS Can use all of the narrow body wheels from 993-986-996-997 50mm-65mmet front and 48mm-65mm et rear. Cars have spacers in the rear for the flared fenders. These can be removed to use wide body wheels.
Most extreme fit 18x10 et65mm on all four corners. The 18x11 et63mm wheel fits nicely on the rear with a 285/30/18 tire. 19"s are possible

18x8et 50mm and 18x10et 65mm below

http://www.wheeldynamics.net/1993-231.jpg

MPDano 01-14-2011 11:40 AM

Will all 9's work? ET55

17" x 9”, 55mm offset

Plexus928 01-14-2011 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPDano (Post 5770231)
How about these Cayenne Turbo II Wheels in 18? ET 57

http://www.dragtimes.com/images-clas...0558995999.jpg


Look GREAT! Very similar to a Cayman/Boxster wheel (which has slightly thinner spokes and the bolt patern is moved so the bolts are centered on the spokes) I have a set of these ready to put on a 928, 57ET is 928 friendly,
The weight without rubber is 13.7kgs's (30.14pounds)

Pete R 01-14-2011 03:17 PM

9" @ 55 won't work, they will stick out of the body on the front 1/4 inch. Probably won't notice it visually but you will have fender to tire contact if the suspension is compress enough especially turning

MPDano 01-14-2011 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete R (Post 5784648)
9" @ 55 won't work, they will stick out of the body on the front 1/4 inch. Probably won't notice it visually but you will have fender to tire contact if the suspension is compress enough especially turning

Ok, that set is out. Saw a great deal on some Cups that were local to me.

Will keep plugging away on some finds.

JK McDonald 01-14-2011 05:20 PM

Konig 20 Inchers
 
Hey MPDano, I think either the 18 inch Cayenne Turbo II or the Panamera wheels would look really nice but my personal favorite is actually the Porsche twist style GT wheels. The blacked out phone dials on a lowered 928 look sharp too.

What ever you do decide on using, I’d sure stick with a good quality brand. Some of those aftermarket rims can weigh as much as an engine block and will seriously influence a car’s handling characteristics. I had helped R/R a couple of dented rims on the front of a 928 that had jumped straddle of a curb during a rally. I don’t know about all of the over-sized wheel/tire combinations but man, those Konig 20 inch’ers mounted with super low profile tires takes two men and a kid to lift back up on the lug studs.

Michael :)

MPDano 01-14-2011 05:59 PM

I did start looking at the Cayenne Wheels until I saw how much they weigh (over 30 lbs). I am trying to stick to 20 lbs or below. The Cups I was looking at were around 18 lbs and they weigh about the same as my PD's.

I'll keep looking and get you guys's opinions, which I value very much.

Plexus928 01-14-2011 11:41 PM

sports classic's around 2002 Boxter (on 928 now)
17x7 ET55 front
17x8.5 ET50 rear
fitted with 255x40 PZero,(pic of a rear) weighs 41.8 pounds (19Kg's) on my bathroom scales
Still debating if they should be replaced with the Cayenne turbo 2's

http://i55.tinypic.com/2isf3ns.jpg

DougM 01-15-2011 04:24 AM

I will be picking up my '84 Euro S on Tuesday. It is black and I really like the black twists on the black car pictured above. I will be selling my 993tt once I get the 928. You say that the 993tt wheels will fit? My tt wheels are 8" et53 and 10" et40. They are painted black like above. If they will fit, I might just purchase some hollow spoke 996tt wheels for the 993 before selling it. I would like to bring the wheels back to stock color when I try to sell the car.
The 928 currently has some aftermarket Modas on it and I am getting the originals as well. Those could be sold to help fund the purchase of the 996tt wheels for my 993. I understand the spacers will need to come off the 928, but can those sizes/offsets fit without any issues?http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1295097890.jpg

Pete R 01-15-2011 04:40 AM

Doug, they should fit. If you own them all I'd do a test fit before selling any. Sometimes there's brake and centercap issues too. I like the looks of the Moda's on that car . I have the the twists on my 951. I'd swap you those for the Moda's (if the fitment worked)

MPDano 01-15-2011 04:53 AM

Also, remember (which I learned yesterday) that there is a different between "Twists" and "Turbo Twists." Above pic (Black) is Turbo Twists, which to me has more detail to the rim.

DougM 01-15-2011 05:10 AM

Mine are stock 993tt hollow spoke twists that are on my turbo.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1295100643.jpg

DougM 01-15-2011 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete R (Post 5785468)
Doug, they should fit. If you own them all I'd do a test fit before selling any. Sometimes there's brake and centercap issues too. I like the looks of the Moda's on that car . I have the the twists on my 951. I'd swap you those for the Moda's (if the fitment worked)

Which ones? 17 or 18" and what offsets and tire sizes? If I run the 993tt wheels, I will have to remove the spacers and cut down the studs. If I get a larger offset, I can run them with the spacers intact.

MPDano 01-15-2011 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DougM (Post 5785485)
Mine are stock 993tt hollow spoke twists that are on my turbo.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1295100643.jpg

That's exactly what I am looking for.

DougM 01-15-2011 05:24 AM

The car or the wheels? The car will be free if you buy the wheels for $43,000:)

MPDano 01-15-2011 06:02 AM

Rims of course and not a penny over $42,900 ;)


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