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AaronCross 05-16-2011 08:30 AM

Couple random shots:

http://www.websitetraffic4newbies.com/porsche/book.jpg http://www.websitetraffic4newbies.com/porsche/book2.jpg
http://www.websitetraffic4newbies.com/porsche/book3.jpg http://www.websitetraffic4newbies.com/porsche/book4.jpg

http://www.websitetraffic4newbies.com/porsche/tag2.jpg
http://www.websitetraffic4newbies.com/porsche/tag1.jpg http://www.websitetraffic4newbies.com/porsche/tag3.jpg

MPDano 05-16-2011 08:34 AM

These are great pictures. Hold onto them as if they were $2 Dollar Bills. All that paperwork is a huge plus to have as I am going through a huge mess with my Grey market Euro. If you can, put that in a Safe.

AaronCross 05-16-2011 11:14 AM

Yea, I was really happy to get all the paperwork with the car (owners/shop manuals,etc.)

The first owner has a notepad in the glove box that has
every fuelstop (amount, cost, mpg, etc.), oil and filters changed/work done logged
for the first 10 years of the cars life...

very cool.

Landseer 05-16-2011 01:32 PM

Here's a thread, albeit wordy, that has groundpoint information and other connection cleaning info. (scan for photos)
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-928-technical-forum/586148-ground-cleaning-16v-euro.html
All warning lights can be an indicator for low battery / no charging.
Must have full battery to run one of these cars.
Some key focus areas:
New ground cable at battery/body.
Clean ends of ground cable -- engine to frame, underside of car, pass side.
Red positive small wires at battery.
Jump post positive terminals (takes l11mm wrench to unscrew I think).
Two ground wires on passenger side cam cover.


Love the color of your car.

neil30076 05-16-2011 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Landseer (Post 6025890)
All warning lights can be an indicator for low battery / no charging.
Must have full battery to run one of these cars.

All warning lights on is also a classic symptom of a failed ignition switch - the return spring in the switch does not pull it back fully from the start position, so the car does start, and all lights stay on. Move the key left a few degrees and they still stay on, next time you start - they will probably work ok again, for a while.

AaronCross 05-17-2011 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neil30076 (Post 6025935)
Move the key left a few degrees and they still stay on, next time you start - they will probably work ok again, for a while.

Not quite sure what you mean here. Could you say again? Thanks!

MPDano 05-17-2011 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronCross (Post 6027922)
Not quite sure what you mean here. Could you say again? Thanks!

When Neil is saying degrees, look at it like a clock. 12 being at the top. Try to move the key to 11 (left) and see what happens with the Warning Lights (still on?)

neil30076 05-17-2011 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronCross (Post 6027922)
Not quite sure what you mean here. Could you say again? Thanks!

Sure, when you turn the key all the way to the start position all the lights should come on until you release the key when the car starts. If the spring in the switch is weak it does not come back all the way, and the lights stay on. turn the key counterclockwise a couple of degrees and they should go out -as normal.
Next time you start the car it may work perfectly, maybe not.

neil30076 05-17-2011 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPDano (Post 6027932)
When Neil is saying degrees, look at it like a clock. 12 being at the top. Try to move the key to 11 (left) and see what happens with the Warning Lights (still on?)

Thanks Leo, my english to - american english dictionary didn't kick in :-)

Mrmerlin 05-06-2016 02:52 PM

to test the starter without getting under the car...........OR if you wanted to start the engine,
you can do this.

First you must be able to identify your 14 pin connector and find pin 14.

If your in doubt then google Porsche 928 14 pin connector identification

Pin #14 on the top half of the connector while looking at the connector connected is at the opposite end of where the wires enter the top half ,

and if you disconnected it and held the connector up looking at the back side,
the #14 pin would be at the top right.

Once you have the pin identified it is called the starter solenoid wire or 50 this wire is the fattest of all of the wires inside the connector and was yellow when it was new.

Now a few things can be accomplished with the connector separated.

first you can test the starter circuit by connecting a test lamp to ground then to the car side of the harness at the 50 female socket,
this is where the # 14 pin plugs in, its next to the connector orientation stud.

turn the key and see if the lamp lights if no good then your issue is from the battery to the 14 pin, you will need the WSM to trace all of the possible places that the power wire is circuited through.

Now the cool part, You can also start the engine with the 14 pin disconnected.

so to be safe here is a Warning...

Always make sure the trans is in Park if an auto or neutral if its a 5 speed , and the E brake is set.

To start the engine you will need a jumper wire.

Turn on the key to the run position,
Connect the jumper wire to the HOT post,
then with the 14 pin connector separated touch the jumper wire to the male # 14 pin,
this will engage the starter.

NOTE if the starter is working the engine should start ,

once the engine starts remove the jumper, connect the 14 pin connector then refit the hot post cover

Sapientoni 05-16-2016 06:42 PM

Try holding the key to the start position for a couple seconds. If this makes it start, the bendix is sticking on the starter drive. Had this on my '81 years ago. Jump starting , it would go. New alternator, no difference, new battery only initially. Cleaned and regreased starter gear, never had another problem.


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