I decided on another 928S

[924CarreraGTP]

For about a month I've been combing CL, yahoo, ebay NOT!, and every other used car forum including this one. I've looked at overpriced 911 Targas, 968s, 944 convertibles, and even bought a Mercedes 380SL in which I sold promptly (because it wasn't a Porsche). I finally decided on this Guards Red 1983 928S as my new street racer.
It runs, and I bought it five miles from my house. I drove it the whole 5 miles home at full speed with no alternator belt, and no power steering belt. It was fun. The engine runs great and the transmission shifts better than my other 928S. I paid $2,000 for it. I'm going to spend about $1000 on it next week. Call me crazy, but I don't see why these cars are so down trodden in the market, but I have a suspicion that it won't last forever. Just wait until that new 929 is built in 2012. The other reason I'll spend $1000 on a 928 is because I love them. People spend thousands on 356's and in the end they have a rust prone, souped up VW beetle. I don't understand it.

[ice-hot]

Great buy, and the preeminent Porsche color! What are you spending the Grand on? Engine, interior the body looks good in photo.
John

[924CarreraGTP]

She needs an alternator. The lower bolt fell off the shaft and it sheered the pulley. It also needs a front spoiler and brack ducts. The body and interior are pretty nice otherwise. If anyone has any of these parts cheap, let me know please. The leather seats are really nice.

[Danglerb]

More pictures. Lots more.

If the pulley sheared, don't you need a new pulley?

Not much of a serious option to buying a new front spoiler, Roger ran a sale last year for I think $325 or so.

I suggest a careful and complete safety inspection before spending a dime on anything cosmetic. Start with high pressure rubber fuel hoses.

[stepson]

Originally Posted by 924CarreraGTP

She needs an alternator. The lower bolt fell off the shaft and it sheered the pulley. It also needs a front spoiler and brack ducts. The body and interior are pretty nice otherwise. If anyone has any of these parts cheap, let me know please.

Have you contacted Benton on RL? He probably has everything you need minus the spoiler.

[Plexus928]

[QUOTE=924CarreraGTP;6258443] People spend thousands on 356's and in the end they have a rust prone, souped up VW beetle. I don't understand it.


Totally agree on this, 40 years ago I had the missfortune to own a 356c super 90 speedster,It was only 5 years old, perfect condition, BUT..... this car would rate as one of the most crap cars I have ever owned ,Hood leaked, It looked like a VW that something big had sat on, and there were ride on lawn mowers that could out perform it.100% ordure!(don't bother looking it up, the word means ****!)
I think it's better design features were incorporated into that other great German classic, the Trabant.
My only regret in selling it is the lunatic prices they make today.should have pushed it under the house and pretended it wasn't there for 40 years .

[924CarreraGTP]

The pulley miraculously did not shear. It was the Alternator shaft that sheered the woodruff key but the pulley is not messed up. Dangler B, I agree that the fuel injection hoses are prone to failure, but I refuse to fix things that aren't broken. I've found that doing so leads to broken NLA 928 parts. What I do have is a fire extinguisher and a nose for leaking gas in every car I have that's got the P word on it. You would think I would know better after one of my many previous 944s caught fire, but after my days of Triumph motorcycles, I feel its better to keep it together as long as you can. Otherwise you wind up with a bunch of parts in a box.
Cars are the same way.
Plexus928, I would cherish a 356 Speedster Carrera for the rest of my life, but I wouldn't say its because of its sophistication or performance. A beautiful car is a beautiful car. The 928 is more than just a beautiful car though. It's a sophisticated piece of performance machinery just as much as the 4 cam speedster was. In order to out perform the 911, Porsche needed an absolute rocket, and they built it. It was the top of the line at Porsche and people would rather spend $20,000 on cars like my 911 T that shift like a beetle. I love my 911 too, but it's a pretty basic car compared to the my 928s.

[Plexus928]

The 356 Carerra made much better power than the super 90( nothing "super there, must have been some kind of marketing ploy) neither of them could win a beauty contest, they look like slugs"
I had a 4.2 E at the same time, no contest, power, looks, performance, Jag 10, the slug, zero!

[Danglerb]

2 min of fire under the hood will cost you months of work and thousands in parts.

Sooner or later you have to go in and fix stuff, might as well do it as soon as you have decided to keep it.

[924CarreraGTP]

Danglerb, the injection rail hoses on my '84 aquired a spray one day, but even though I was 5 miles from home, I drove it the the whole way with no fire. I taped it, to stop the spray. Granted it could have caught fire, exploded, and ruined my car, but it didn't. It took me about 3 hours to fix it and I was back driving it the same night.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I also broke an oil breather connector changing the plugs that cost me a $30 trip to Little Rock, AR to buy a $40 used part that was NLA. So I'm very careful messing around where things aren't broke.

Plexus928, The E Type Jag is a pretty car. I just had my fill of Lucas electronics. I've dabled and test driven Lotus Espirits, and a few other rare brits but every time I revert back to thinking about those sorry plug in Lucas wire connectors, I cringe. EVERYTHING english has Lucas electronics. My dad's JCB backhoe has Lucas electronics (that burned out no less). I'll say one thing about Jaguar. In the 50's they did give Ferrari a run for its money.
I do like the looks of the 356 speedsters and even the 356 A coupes, but my point here is that people are just stupid to pass off the Porsche 928 as common junk. I've read so many bad reviews in magazine by people that have probably never owned one. Recently with my Mercedes 380SL buy, I figured out that I would rather spend all day working on a 928 than I would touch a Mercedes Convertible. I guess that's devotion or what some would call Porschephilia. The disease of being a Porschephile.

[MPDano]

Sheesh, will you post more pics already

[Normy]

I don't really understand why these cars keep getting cheaper either; They have incredible performance, even today, they are unique, the design is timeless [people still think my '85 is an '05 when I stop places], and I get a crowd around the think on the occasional trip to a car show. The bang-per-buck of this thing is insane- yet prices still keep dropping.

All the better; I may buy a second 928 if the prices keep dropping!

N!

[924CarreraGTP]

Here, chew on this for a minute while I wait for a sunny day to take pictures. The spoiler is trashed, and there are no brake ducts, but the bumper cover is intact.

[924CarreraGTP]

Normy, I've considered buying yet another one in blue that this guy wants to sell me for $2500. I've seen it before. It needs paint on the front clip. He actually quoted me $2,200 the other day. As soon as he gets the car started I may make a deal on it just for my gut feeling on the whole thing. We live in a society that cherishes rarity. Some day, a running and driving 928 is going to be a very rare sight.

[MPDano]

Originally Posted by 924CarreraGTP

...a running and driving 928 is going to be a very rare sight.

It already is. I rarely see one here in San Diego, Calif.

[924CarreraGTP]

Here's my '84. Its Chiffon White with its original paint. The '84s are a little less common. They made less that year and this car is a rare color no less. Chiffon was only done in 82, 83, 84 (from what I've read). My favorite part is the polished flat wheels. I'm not so fond of the phone dials unless from a far.

[Danglerb]

Nothing on the top of a 16v is that hard to replace with available parts. Some of the goofy hoses are no more complex than changing size from one end to the other. I'm no mechanic, but I survived doing a top end refresh, and fixing all the stuff that was leaking and wrong made a huge improvement on the car.

Not trying to tell you or anybody else what to do, just pointing out half a dozen or so burn every year.

[neil30076]

Originally Posted by MPDano

It already is. I rarely see one here in San Diego, Calif.

Leo, need to drive around RB more often, I drove both today :-)

[924CarreraGTP]

DanglerB, The buffers for the fuel rail/pressure regulator are NLA. So fabricating some type of screw down is the only way to fix it after you break it redoing fuel lines. Granted most of them are already broken in the first place which is probably what causes injector lines to break. Year by year it gets harder to find parts for the 928.
As I said, I agree with you on the replacement of the injector lines. At this point, I have so many other things that are broken to worry about.

[Danglerb]

I live 10 min from 928Intl and have a good three spares of just about anything, but I have no issues with original vs fabrication either. First chance I get all my early hose barb injectors are getting replaced with modern direct fuel rail connections.

Here is a link to a diagram of the fuel injection system, what are you having trouble finding?
Porsche 928 L-jetronic 2 Parts