FS or possibly part out- 86 951

[driftwood]

About 150k, third owner. Had a coolant leak, pressure tested and found radiator leaking. Replaced radiator and while bleeding air, she started to blow white smoke. Shut it down, wasn't hot but coolant now in oil when I pulled the dipstick. Only ran about 5 minutes after rad replacement but tech that I brought it to, strongly advises at least pulling pan to replace bearings.

Putting the money in it for the head gasket was a bit more than I cared for and I definitely don't feel like dumping anymore in it for the bearings. Car is just not worth it to me. It's a great car and a lot of fun to drive, but I just have too many things going on right now including another project car that I would much rather see completed.

Interior-black, overall very good condition with very minor cracks near def on dash, driver seat worn on bolster, but no tears. Door panels and console very good with exception of console lid having previously poorly repaired. Radio wiring will need work, P.O. kept his radio and I never put one in. Everything works with exception of pass mirror but I may have a good one.

Exterior- black, good 20 footer. P.O. daily drove into Manhattan so has it's shares of dings/chips but no rust.

Chassis- everything is still tight, rebuilt L.R. cv joint last fall.

Add ons- SS header and SS cat back, K&N air filter, has 18" wheels with like new tires(2k on rear tires) or can go with stock 16" phone dials. Phone dials are in very good condition though do show chips, 16" tires also about 75-80% left.

I replaced fuel filter , sent PCM out for resolder($375) and put the 18's($1500) on it all last fall.

I have some extra parts for it and all will go if car sells whole.

I don't mind taking a small loss, but I won't give it away for way less than I have into it. It's at the garage right now with the head off, still need to pick it up maybe this weekend.

Asking $4000 with the 18's or $2500 with dials.

I have no problem with constructive comments if what I am asking is way out of line.

Thanks, Joe

[Arizona_928]

Mien gott im himmel!!


Soo the head gasket just blew like that? Did the fire rings fail or?

[carlege]

didnt you buy this car for 2k running?

What was the quote for the HG? If its such a burden i would just do the Bearings at a later date



Basically what im saying is that you got a car for a Steal.... You quote "beat the snot out of it for 20 min on such and such track day" Even though the car is worth the money to get it running right your not willing to do that. It just doesnt make much sense

[nize]

you JUST replaced the head gasket and now there's coolant in the oil?

didn't the shop take responsibility?

or was there coolant in the oil before the headgasket job?

[driftwood]

Originally Posted by carlege

didnt you buy this car for 2k running?

What was the quote for the HG? If its such a burden i would just do the Bearings at a later date



Basically what im saying is that you got a car for a Steal.... You quote "beat the snot out of it for 20 min on such and such track day" Even though the car is worth the money to get it running right your not willing to do that. It just doesnt make much sense

Yes, I got it for 2k running, needing tlc. Add the wheels/tires, ECU repair, fuel filter, radiator/hoses and other minor repairs and it's at my asking price.

I do feel I got a good deal on it, and enjoyed running it wide open around Pocono, not sure that's really "beating the snot out of it". Maybe that's what I stated in a previous post.

As far as not willing to go the extra investment to do the bearings, there is a lot more than meets the eye. I'm going through a divorce, trying to get the house cleaned up and listed to settle joint property, trying to help my sister through her husband leaving her and 2kids, helping everyone else around me at the drop of a hat because I'm too damn nice to ever say no, average work days around 13-14 hours with commute. Add in all the little things like u-joints just going on truck and blackberry taking a crap , there is just no time for added nuisances in my life right now.

Sure, the car is worth doing the bearings right now too and I do have the cash to do it, I just don't feel I will ever get it back from the car once my camaro is done. This car was only a temporary way for me to satisfy my need for aggressive driving/speed til the camaro got done. My camaro is a long time passion/project that is finally close to fruition. While I will end up putting more into it than what the 944 needs, it should be able to out perform it with classic american lines. It's just my preference.

Sorry for the long post, but trying to make things clear.

nize- No, after I replaced the radiator it blew. Before the radiator there was very little oil in coolant that I was unsure as to it being residual from previous repair or some other current issue. There was never any coolant in the oil during my possession until I was filling coolant & bleeding the air after radiator replacement.
I thought I possibly induced the coolant into oil during pressure test as there was greater pressure on coolant side of cooler seals than there usaully would be. After pressure test, car remained on ramps til new rad arrived and installed. In hindsight, I should not have assumed the external rad leak was the only one and should have checked the oil before start up. Hindsight.

I still need to talk to the tech, I may go ahead with the HG repair and hope for the best. What the heck, the head is already off so I have to pay almost half labor.

[carlege]

if you do put it back together with a new HG im fairly sure you can get more then 2500 maybe 3500.... i would just disclose the rod bearing thing to the potential buyer at that price they should expect to do some maintenance

[driftwood]

That's just it. I'll have to put almost $2k in it for the HG to increase value half that. I would have to drive it alot to "recoup" that money.

[Roman944]

well if you plan to part it, throw it up in classifieds with a list of parts

I'd rather spend $$$ to rebuild it though, could be a good LSx candidate too?

[driftwood]

Since I am doing an L92/6L90 swap on my camaro, the thought crossed my mind on the same for the 944. The rear end /axle joint durability or lack there of scares me off that idea.

Hope to figure it out this weekend.

[carlege]

Hey, Joe..... Location might be a good idea if someone wants to come look at it.

[driftwood]

Oopsie, thought I had that in there.
Thanks.

[piperporsche180]

Send more pictures to boarderzone457@yahoo.com

Im interested. Im buying to many 951s this year...

[driftwood]

Just got back from vacation and waiting to get car back from shop. Will forward pics once I get it back.

Thanks, Joe

[Roman944]

Originally Posted by driftwood

Since I am doing an L92/6L90 swap on my camaro, the thought crossed my mind on the same for the 944. The rear end /axle joint durability or lack there of scares me off that idea.

Hope to figure it out this weekend.

there is a bunch of swapped cars, sure seems worth it

you already have a great starting point ...

[driftwood]

Well, I got the car back on friday night. After spending roughly $2500, I decided to not sell the car at this point or it would be like throwing money away. I'm gonna drive it as much as possible to try to get my moneys worth out of it.

Took multiple flushes, but she's all clean for now. Turns out it was the original head gasket, but at some point, someone had the intake off and used 16v gaskets instead of the correct ones. Will at Precision Motorsports was surprised I didn't have a vacuum leak prior to the head gasket letting go. Also had him do the oil filter housing seals while it was apart.

Anyway, I plan to go to Pocono again the 23rd to put it to the test. Hey, might as well drive it like it was built for.

[driftwood]

Big time update, found another car interested in so trying to sell again.

Car ran flawless at Pocono again, however about a week after has a knocking at the front. Hoping it may be timing belt slapping cover based on threads posted here. Plan to look into it this weekend.

At any rate, looking to get $4500 or best offer with both sets wheels and all misc parts including new switches, extra set of pw regs, fiberglass sunroof, fog lights, PORSCHE rear light panel, etc.

This is for quick sale so I can move on. I have many pics and can get specific shots for those interested. Can show car to anyone in area that's interested.

My email is jhend95 "at" hotmail "dot" com for anyone wanting more pics. I am in a rush right now, but can add more info later. Will say just put $2700 in the head gasket job and all tires have atleast 80% remaining.

Thanks, Joe

[aben8057]

How much just for the wheels?