Engine drop begins

[machisono]

Hi everyone,
I have begun following Adrian's directions for the engine drop and I am having difficulty removing this brake booster hose pictured here. Any suggestions on separating?

It feels like I could cut approximately 7/8" from the hose and still have enough play to reattach, but I want to hear from the experts.

Thank you kindly

joe

[hepkat63]

Hi Joe,
I'm no expert, however - have worked on plenty of cars over the years. Go and boil the kettle and then pour the hot water over the pipe - it will make it expand enough to remove. Of course, take all necessary protection for the hot water !!!
regards
steve

[machisono]

Aloha Steve

Yes that crossed my mind.
thanks
joe

[efhughes3]

The heat mentioned, or try a 90 degree pick, and get the tip in and run around the pipe's perimeter to loosen the bond.

[machisono]

I like that one too Ed, and I have some old dental picks.

joe

[machisono]

UPDATE: Dental picks bent. But using my wife's hair dryer did the trick!!!

Onward and upward

joe

[chrisbruck]

Originally Posted by machisono

But using my wife's hair dryer did the trick!!!

Onward and upward

joe

You are a brave man (or have a very cool wife!)

[BimmerDob]

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[machisono]

You are a brave man (or have a very cool wife!)

I do, although it was tested when I installed a Mitsubishi split AC system in the garage to protect the cars from the high humidity here in Kauai

joe

[aigel]

There are tools you can buy for this too, but heat is magic, isn't it?

OTC 4521 Hose Removal Tool

Keep us posted on the drop. If you fly me in, I'll help. I am off next week!

G

[machisono]

Thanks aigel

The link is helpful, the tool appears to be way sturdier than the dental pick I tried last night

Started off the day diving under the car and moved a great deal slower, what with my poor eyesight and inexperience the journey was slower than expected only once I had to remind myself to enjoy it. When I struggled with reaching the electrical connectors for the starter and then decided to go after them once we lower the engine a few inches.

More fun tomorrow.

Aloha

[machisono]

Aloha all,

With a friend we started this morning (on the underside of the motor) and finished about 4 pm.

Had some help with the throttle cable but essentially dropping it an inch or two at a time and checking for missed wires (ground strap).

As I wait for the Supertecs to arrive I want to hear your thoughts on working right from the engine stand ( max ht. is 17") to replace the cylinder head studs.

Also looking at how much trouble it will be to replace the starter ( currently no issues) should I change it out (here we go the the while your in there).

Thanks in advance.

[RedCoupe]

Starters are pretty simple. Usually, any trouble is a result of worn brushes or a sticking or corroded starter drive assembly. That being said, if you don't pay any attention to the starter while you have the engine out, sure enough it will cause some problems once you reinstall the engine and trans. I vote for removing the starter and buying a new one or take it apart yourself and replace brushes and clean and lube the drive assembly. Anyone who can drop a 964 engine should be easily able to overhaul a starter. (but only if you want to!) Usually starters use plain bushings instead of ball bearings like alternators and generators use, but I haven't had a 964 starter apart so I don't know for sure. In any event, if you decide to refurbish the starter yourself, be sure to check the bearings or bushings to see if they need lubrication or replacing.

[aigel]

I remember under 60k miles on the car? I'd leave the starter alone. Yes, it is a PITA to replace with engine / trans in car but completely doable. If you start replacing everything that may fail, you'll be taking it down to the crank bearings soon. Forget that.

Not sure what is 17" there. I can't see an engine stand. Do yourself a favor and get an engine stand an a Porsche specific yoke, so you can rotate the engine to easily disassemble and re-assemble in an ergonomically friendly position. There are cam housings, cams, heads, rocker arms etc. to take apart and re-assemble. Much easier if you can rotate it sunny side up for every area you focus on.

Hope this helps. Keep up the good work!

G

[machisono]

Thanks guys for keeping up with this thread, yes, aigel 58K on the engine. The 911 engine stand is barely visible (yellow) in the pic adjacent to the red duct tape.

Yes, it is a PITA to replace with engine / trans in car but completely doable. If you start replacing everything that may fail, you'll be taking it down to the crank bearings soon. Forget that.

Loud and clear.

Aigel, what I am hearing is that working from a height of only 17" it will be too difficult and unpleasant working conditions... especially for a noob?

[aigel]

Hi Joe,

I just got out of a $$$ transmission rebuild, where I had to have the best of everything. Others would build an engine for less .... so I know the slippery slope ...

I still can't see anything that looks like an engine stand in your image. Like this?



Am I missing something? It is late on the mainland, you know ...

If you would like to borrow my porsche engine yoke, I can send it if you cover shipping. I can also fly with it and help.

G

[wesleyc]

That's a sweet looking engine G. I'm following this thread Joe. My 993 has to come out soon. These pelicanites are the best thing since sliced bread. Good luck.

[machisono]

Aloha G and WesleyC and Red Coupe,

"Stand" is a loose and most likely incorrect term for the 911 cradle that attaches to a floor jack. The flimsy looking contraption worked quite well during the drop. I guess in my naivete I was hoping to work from the floor

It appears that I have an engine stand purchase in my immediate future. Need to start researching how to get the engine at stand level. I have a winch and a strap but I want to know if there are alternatives?

Much mahalos

[aigel]

That's a sweet looking engine G. ...

Not mine - that's from an old thread here on pp. but I agree - cool machine!

G

[machisono]

Your thoughts on this stand is appreciated. It is rated for 1500 lbs. and it ships for free

BUT will it be stable



Sears.com

thanks