window net WITHOUT welding?
 

are there any mounting kits out there that allow the install but without resorting to welding the tabs in place?

thanks.

There are some nets that wrap around the cage. You'll still need a couple of tabs for where the net opens. I have seen people strap these tabs to the cage or rivet them to the cage. The other option is to use through-bolts, but these need to be sized exactly to the hole. Even then I suspect that they weaken the cage. Other then that your options are limited.

Be sure to consult the rules or check with a tech inspector of the group that you run with on track to see what they'll accept. I'd hate to drill holes in a cage only to learn that the work.

Window net
 

Check out the Schroth window nets...two sizes and attach to the cage with hose clamps. It has a seatbelt type release.

Good luck!
Doug

Why do you not want to weld tabs to the cage?

Thanks guys. Didn't know Schroth made nets as well. Will check it out.

Rob,
This is still a daily driver (mostly) and it's already a big enough pain to climb over the door bars to get in. Last thing I want to add is more protrusions to climb over. I'll probably do no more than two club races per year and just need the net to pass tech. But there will be 360 days left in the year where they will become a pain hence my aversion to a permanent mounting.

Dave,

I attached mine at the bottom with tabs, but they stick out sideways so they don't get in the way, then the top is looped over the cage with aircraft cable...

I did this so no tab would catch my suit if I needed to make a quick exit...

Dave,

Here is an alternative and it is PCA club legal.

http://www.force5.net/index.html

It works very well for a dual purpose 911 and when not needed you remove and have a clean stock door.

John

Dave:
I have one from AutoPower that camps on still new and I believe still in the box. I'll sell it to you cheap, if your interested? Here's some info on it:

http://www.ioportracing.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=AWNIK&Categor y_Code=WN

Keep in mind the reason for the net. You want to keep body parts as far away from any external impact as possible. If you smack a wall sideways you don't your helmet smacking the wall. The further in board the net the better. Mount it inside the cage if you can.

What about helmet and arm restraints so you can forgo window netting?

I use my own variant of the IOPort setup and it works fine.

theoretically yes, but the rulebook says "net" so i gotta use a net

also, other than a halo, i'm not aware whether any helmet restraints prevent side to side movement

Look at some sprint car setup. They use these triangular, pennant-like, "nets". I think I saw one on Plavan's pictures. Let me see...

This shows it on the inside of the car. One can be mounted similarly on the door side:

http://www.theplavans.com/racing/carpics/10-18-04/images/DSC02569_JPG.jpg

BUT, the rules is the rules and if this isn't allowed, no go. I'd ask though...

Force 5 window net
 

A local club member and Industrial Design Enigneer designed a net that fits into the window channel of your door. It's called Force 5 and is PCA club race approved. See http://www.*****************.com/product_p/f5_911driver.htm

I've got one that attaches to the window frame, I don't remember the manufacturer but I'm pretty sure it was purchased from the Racers Group. It was a lot cheaper than the Force 5 one. This is okay for a street car with a rollbar but I think one that attaches to the cage is much better.