V6 engine on 944 NA

Wardog · 05-23-2003, 10:18 AM

Does anyone knows if this is posible????? I may be able to buy a nice mitsubishi V6 engine, it has 205hp without turbo.......nice deal.......but is this really posible??????? need some advice for this.....I know there is a kit for V8 engines but it only works on 944 turbos, cuase the trans is stronger........in a NA wont handle that much torque.....Is there a V6 kit???????

ViolentBlue · 05-23-2003, 08:30 PM

if you must put a v8 into your 914 just go with a mildly built 289, if you're worried about the trans, upgrade it ti the turbo unit.

ronin · 06-08-2003, 12:52 AM

Remember, anything is possible given enough money, time and effort. But I just wonder if it wouldn't defeat the purpose of having a Porsche when a different heart beats beneath its skin. (if you're planning on using a Chevy - no pun intended

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ViolentBlue · 06-08-2003, 07:32 AM

yes I personally woldn't put anything but a porsche engine in a porsche (well maybe a VW VR6 in a 914, but its pretty much a VW anyway)

ronin · 06-08-2003, 10:49 AM

Hmmm, that gives me an idea. Perhaps the six from the R32....

Moneyguy1 · 06-12-2003, 11:04 PM

AS for transplants, if your ticker is on its way out, I am sure you would approve of a transplant. Renegade Hybrids has a kit for installing eithr a V8 or V6 into the 944. As owner of a 944, I find the engine the weakest part of the car. Porsche did not do a really good job on that design!! BTW..the Audi 20V is, with minor mods, a direct drop in for the 924 and the early (at least) 944). I am not a purist. I look for the best engineering I can find. I have tried to get a machine shopinterested in the VR6 idea. It would be ideal for the "purists".

Wardog · 06-15-2003, 03:54 PM

YOU MEAN I CAN USE AN AUDI 20V ENGINE INSTEAD OF THE ORIGINAL PORSCHE ENGINE????? AND IT´S BETTER????......if that´s so.......please gimme more info about the engine, hp, engine model number.....So I could try and find one.......

TKX

ronin · 06-15-2003, 10:57 PM

To each his own but it's just not something I'd do to a Porsche. Just my two cents

Moneyguy1 · 06-18-2003, 03:41 PM

I have worked on more Porsches than I care to recall, from 356Cs to 944s, and some early 911s in the middle. The 356 was bulletproof, as were the first few years of the 911. The 924 was indestructible. Then came the 944...interference design, "iffy" timing belt, clutch jobs that require hours, rings and pinions that go south. Been there, done that. I have a 944. I treat it very gently, and yet things go wrong that should not. It is only my opinion, but I feel that there was not a lot of thought in the overall design of the engine; not so much the block or the head, but the rest of the machine. A five or six cylinder design would have eliminated the need for 50 pounds or more of balance shafts, and would have made the front end simpler to maintain.

I think the 944 is still one of the "prettiest" body designs they ever came up with, and I would rather see one kept on the road with a bastardtized engine than relegated to the scrapyard. Innovation is what keeps technology moving forward; not accepting the status quo. There are only so many engines out there, and they are diappearing rapidly due to mechanical failures, and Porsche no longer "supports" the 944 or its iterations. They would like to see us all "go away". It's sad to see parts lists with "NLA" after the number......

As for the Audi 20V conversion, there is an article about it on 924.org, with some pictures. The turbo iteration of this engine is rated at or about 208 HP. THe problem is there are not too many of this beast around; it is a rare bird.

A GM V6 weighs just about the same as the Porsche 2.5 liter and, depending on the model chosen, offers at least a 50% increase in displacement. The V8 is, admittedly slightly heavier, but Renegade can explain things far better than I can.

Whatever you decide to do, the primary goal is to have fun. Like what you do and do what you like.

ronin · 06-25-2003, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by Moneyguy1
There are only so many engines out there, and they are diappearing rapidly due to mechanical failures, and Porsche no longer "supports" the 944 or its iterations. They would like to see us all "go away". It's sad to see parts lists with "NLA" after the number......

I'd have to agree with that assessment. I've seen the parts availability go down drastically over the last ten years. Even many of the wrecking yards no longer have cars available. I think it's time to stock up if you wantto keep your car longer. I know I do. As for the bodyshape, I also think it's one of the cleanest shapes ever devised, especially the 951.

NYC_SpeedRacer · 08-08-2003, 09:33 AM

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AS for transplants, if your ticker is on its way out, I am sure you would approve of a transplant. Renegade Hybrids has a kit for installing eithr a V8 or V6 into the 944. As owner of a 944, I find the engine the weakest part of the car. Porsche did not do a really good job on that design!! BTW..the Audi 20V is, with minor mods, a direct drop in for the 924 and the early (at least) 944). I am not a purist. I look for the best engineering I can find. I have tried to get a machine shopinterested in the VR6 idea. It would be ideal for the "purists".

just wondering what other Audi/VW engines would fit or be a direct fit? like a
2.8 V6 12v or a 2.8 V6 30v

what parts would be needed for this swap besides engine, wiring harness,ecu, tranny, driveshaft(?), rear differential(?)