I just got back from a trip to Germany and every Porsche I saw was a Cab or Targa. The "needs to be a coupe" thing is decidedly an American market thing.

...and a complete crock. Some of the most important and iconic Porsches is history are Cabs or have no top. The anti cab thing is "recent", boy racer BS.

Flame on Raw man.

Wow! That is cool news hot off the German mentality. I trust what you say because I lived in Costa Mesa for 3 years, went to college there, then So. California college across from the fair grounds. So if that is German preference or even tolerance, you'd think the Americans would get a clue?

Fixed it to what I’ve been saying for years. Get out of this little mud puddle and the world looks at them very differently.

Well said Matt Monson! I compliment you on that, except to say it might be a big mud puddle, the US market. Anyway, no hard feelings I hope. We are changing the paradigm in the mud puddle as we speak. Always remember I'm not against you, rather I'm for you as a Pelican bro. I want to get along well with you and with anyone/everyone. Thanks to Evan too for that nugget!

bernie

Cabriolets are made for womenfolks.
Targas? not so much.

Too cold in Canada for either! My father born and raised there said to me many times as a youngster born and raised in NV USA, let me tell you something about Canada! Canada sucks! Mind you he was from Saskatchewan, a bitter cold place on a small family milk farm.

I'm a Canadian citizen now since last year, so I'm not as biased or experienced, yet better you keep a coupe and hopefully the heater hoses aren't rotten or leaking. Apparently Germans like those cabs and targas. The scenery must be pretty nice there. I've been to Germany so I understand the reasoning. Don't get me wrong though, I've been to Canada may times and it is a beautiful country! It's my country read DOB on my citizenship certificate. Can't wait to get back there now that I'm a home boy. SmileWavy

To be honest , cabs are kind of cute little cars.

I can’t speak for why coupes are valued more in the US, but I personally like the rear lines of the coupe better from purely an aesthetic standpoint. Doesn’t necessarily make them more valuable, just my personal preference. And cab and targa people may find their car more appealing. And they wouldn’t be wrong.

Years ago I was looking at cars at a quality car lot with mostly German cars. I came across a nice pale yellow Boxster but it had an automatic!!! I told the shop owner, what the heck??? He said he was upset with his buyer because people want a stick and that car will just sit there on the lot. So kind of the same thing. Another fine shop in San Diego gets in air cooled 911’s mostly cabs from time to time . Says they can’t get coupes.

If your lucky enough to own a 911, you're lucky enough.

Yep, coupes are just not out there for sale. If you do a an autotrader or cars.com search for air cooled 911s, all you find are cabs and targas. And there’s not even that many of those.

For me, I simply do not like how 911 Cabs or Targas look compared to a Coupe - no different to how I do not like how any 911 variety with smaller than 930 flares looks compared to the fat assed ones, and I definitely do not like how a vintage 911 looks without at least a Carrera tail or bigger on it (Coupes, Targas or Cabs), and non-boosted 911s are also of no interest to me with regard to wanting to own one. It's all just personal preference, ya bisch! :D

I'll stick with my cab Ruf BTR III in yellowbird yellow with the six gears. If you see me on the road, just wave. If it's not too hot (or cold) the top most likely will be down. I'll stick my hand up so you can see me wave back, after I see you getting smaller in the rear view. I gotta reassemble the car first, so don't look for this cute cab anytime soon.

Maybe most of those are destined for Germany? They want them back. They want them all back!

i lip curled a (964, non-yellow)) cab today. in my lowly SC coupe, when i met him on the hwy.
he glanced downward and away, in a shame filled sorta manner. : )

LOL I haven't been by recently but see things didn't get far. This past week or so I was witness to some nice low mile 964 C2's in #1 condition sell for as much as $250k. 70k mile late MY C2's sell for $100k. A low mile rusted out but mechanically sound 930 sell for nearly $80k and a 39k mile G50 3.2 that has been idle for 14 years all original paint fetch $50k. Owner had no idea what he had. A few targas bring nearly $60k and a few cabs break some new records.

Not sure what you guys are seeing but the market has jumped into overdrive and people are going bat ***** crazy spending the sky for anything air-cooled.

I might have my preferences but I am around some very fine air-cooled 911's most days from Coupes to cabs and see just about every exotic daily. I see a pristine plain jane long nose done right and I have nothing but admiration for them. Still wouldn't own one but you have to love what they produced no matter how quirky.

Folks keep saying that the air cooled prices are going through the roof! I keep checking and I just do not see it. Hagerty and NADA have always been where I look along with the credit unions.

Hagerty is always way behind, like a year at least. They actually value an average g50 3.2 about $2k more than an average 964. Whatever!

You can't use those valuations for cars like these. They are laughable at best.

Use the number 1 valuation as a base price for a number 4 and then go up from there.

Exactly. A #3 SC is valued at $37k. I’ll take five!

I like that! Always yearn for a competitive challenge on the open road with unknown outcomes. It's all for fun generally. Road rage is different, but you made me think of a time I got into some in Canada 20 years ago going up to visit Grandma before she passed. Alberta, headed up into the Alps in the fast lane, some punk in a new blue Mustang kept hitting the brights in my rearview and this was daytime. Cars in front of me so I couldn't go any faster in my dog old 302 Cordoba with the fine Corinthian leather. I finally move over and passing by he gave us the finger as he shouted F-CK YOU!! We could hear the rage in his voice as we had the windows down the whole trip! I realized he'd seen the NV plates on the boat and the Japanese National riding shotgun (my girlfriend then, now wife). I didn't like that so I asked for an egg out of the cooler box in the back seat, but was declined.

I then passed him and promptly ran him into the ditch with my boat nearly. He passed us again with the 5.0 liter motor and this time chucked a ball point pen and nearly hit my lady through the open window. Again I asked for an egg and to my surprise, I got one! Last exit up into the Alps he got into the lane and slowed due to traffic. As I pulled up along side he was still talking sh-t. I told the lady to lean back, and with precision aim at say 20-30 mph splattered the egg on his neck, all with my Armani sunglasses on. By then he was in the exit with no recourse, so we proceeded with the lovely drive up into the beautiful Canadian Alps.

Road rage isn't a good thing, but safer in Canada without the guns! Read today a little boy killed in US on the road in a car from a stray road rage bullet. Road rage doesn't happen here anymore due to extremely tough laws legislated against it in recent years. It rarely ever happened in the past anyway. No guns here either. Just a Canada story for you.

These companies business is to provide valuations for classic cars.

Two interesting results here.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1992-porsche-911-carrera-4-6/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2022-05-30

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1988-porsche-911-carrera-coupe-7/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2022-05-30

I’d love to own both!

Pretty close although the condition of the 88 is far better, at least from what can be seen in the photos.

I agree. The 92 has many ?? The car has a full repaint with some areas of heavy bondo and either painted more than once or someone had a very heavy hand. 10-27 mils. The windshield rust will need an expensive repair, needs new tires and many other things.

I wouldn't consider these two a good market comparison.

That’s such a big premium for a g50 gear box. Got to be $20k+ over a 915 in the same layup (black on black, quality driver miles)

the "G" stands for grandmother/girlfriend friendly.
real men drive the nine-one-five. : )

Absolutely right! It amazes me how a g50 tranny commands such a premium. I love my 915. I had a g50 with my old 964 and really can’t ever tell much difference other than slightly slower and more deliberate shifts from one gear to the next. But honestly, a well set up 915 is a pleasure, and very rewarding to drive.

You can't compare the 2 but either is fine depending on what you want from the car. On track the 915 is way too slow but you can't really power shift a G50 either. Slow shifts makes it harder to rev match but I find most street drivers don't bother.

Totally agree, Cobalt. I think the run up in G50s is a great leading indicator of where all the other Gs get to. That car reaches its high water mark (saying nothing about near term step backs) and then the rest of the G body marker backfills in behind it.

Gotta tell you, this is one of the most underrated albums ever.

Quite possibly the best show I’ve ever seen. We had floor seats for the show. It was at the Warfield theatre in SF and was filmed for PBS. Really an amazing night.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sEkDB4I9_yA

In 1971, I went to what was supposed to be a Crosby and Nash Concert at the Boston Music Hall. After they did a bunch of songs together, Steven Stills walked on stage and the place went absolutely ballistic. This was a small, theater type venue back in the day.

After a few more songs, Neil Young came on stage eating a bunch of strawberries. The place was literally shaking. They then performed together for another hour and a half. It was the most exciting concert I've ever seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UZ95YZZ1SE