356 values?

[Augustus]

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<div style="font-style:italic">^^^ Magnus probably spent $275k promoting his car.</div>
</div>Magnus probably made $1/4 Million on hats and t-shirts from the Urban Outlaw brand while advertising that car. And wrote off all the advertising budget to his clothing line. And the car probably cost $125k to build. Not a bad year's work in my book...

I'm not easily impressed... seems you are.

[Matt Monson]

Originally Posted by Augustus

I'm not easily impressed... seems you are.

You really are a bit of a prick.

I respect what Magnus is doing, as a businessman. I'm not one of the masses who is a Magnus fanboi and hangs on his every action. I've met the guy and hung out with him. While his love of the marque is true, he is first and foremost a businessman and wouldn't be doing what he is currently doing if there weren't a profit in it for him. The fact that I see that and speak openly about doesn't mean that I am impresed, but it does mean that I respect the guy's vision and that he had the foresight to capitalize on the 911 craze and make a few fistfuls of money off of it.

[ficke]

Originally Posted by Augustus

I'm not easily impressed... seems you are.

You might not be impressed, but people who have money and buy Porsche's are obviously impressed and frankly those are the ones who are setting market price. It would be silly to ignore that.

[mattC2993]

Originally Posted by ficke

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I am seeing the price of 1965-1973 911's climbing and easily surpassing 356's of equal shape and options.
The SWB 911's are the pre A 356
The 2.4L 911 are the 356 C's
The 73 911 Carrera is $ wise on par with the 356 Carrera
Of course the 356 Carrera has a much more unique engine than the 73 Carrera and it can not be as easily duplicated like its 911 brethren so I doubt that price rise integrity of the 73 Carrera.

I don't see 911s surpassing 356 prices. A's coupes are $50k-$80k, Pre As are $80k-$120k. The 356 Carreras are $250k and up. Even project cars are $30-$50k. Open cars are another big step up. Is this where the '65-73 911s are at? I really wouldn't mind seeing my '70 911E project car rising in value so I'm not upside down on it

[ficke]

There are many sources to support claims made, Here is one E-bay buyers asking prices. there are a lot more if you want to look for yourself. 59,000 1962 356 with S engine Porsche : 356 Reutter Coupe in Porsche | eBay Motors
52,000 1964 356
Porsche : 356 Factory in Porsche | eBay Motors
129,000 1963 356 S Porsche : 356 in Porsche | eBay Motors
50,000 Porsche : 356 B in Porsche | eBay Motors
45,000 1967 912 with 911 engine Porsche : 911 SWB Coupe in Porsche | eBay Motors



105,000 1973 911E Porsche : 911 E | eBay
75,000 1966 911 Porsche : 911 Coupe 2 doors in Porsche | eBay Motors

[mattC2993]

You picked two B's (cheapest of the lot) and an unrestored C Let me guess....there wasn't even an A or pre A coupe for sale on Ebay.

[ficke]

Originally Posted by mattC2993

You picked two B's (cheapest of the lot) and an unrestored C Let me guess....there wasn't even an A or pre A coupe for sale on Ebay.

Matt no need to guess, just look for yourself and compare S to S and Normal to Normal, maybe post your comparison from E-bay or the source of your choice.
What I see is 356's have had a steady climb in ten years.
911 have had a rocket like climb, and I do not see a bubble so much as these cars are being discovered by the Porsche masses.
As the Porsche population changes with time, I see that the average Porsche person of today looks at old 911's as vintage cars and 356's are akin to them as model T Fords are something like that, antiques, they might not even recognize a 356 as a Porsche.
911's are "old skool Porsche's" at least that is what I hear.
I remember when 911's were the "new" car and 356's were what the high school and poor Porsche owner drove. Times and perception is always changing.
I guess I am showing my age but it is to illustrate all the changes and we are going through one of those changes now.

[mattC2993]

Sure. 911s are rising in price. I think my 993 might even be on the climb. My point was that there are no 356As for sale because they are in big demand and short supply = expensive. I think comparing 356s to old Fords is a bit of a stretch!

[Matt Monson]

Ebay is being held up as the benchmark of where the prices are at on these cars?

This conversation has dipped into the silly. I thought we were talking about nice drivers, restored cars, and top notch concours vehicles. You don't find them on Ebay. You don't gauge the market on the project cars and shadetree restored cars that pollute Ebay...

[ficke]

Originally Posted by Matt Monson

Ebay is being held up as the benchmark of where the prices are at on these cars?

This conversation has dipped into the silly. I thought we were talking about nice drivers, restored cars, and top notch concours vehicles. You don't find them on Ebay. You don't gauge the market on the project cars and shadetree restored cars that pollute Ebay...

Matt, In no way am I suggesting E-bay is the "benchmark" for prices, what I have done is offered up hard numbers to support my opinion and frankly speaking the PO is the only one else who has done the same. As much as I like hearing opinions, I and I believe others like opinions even more with supporting information, then the conversation actually changes into a conversation of facts.
But of course some times facts get into the way of opinions