confused about windows, again

[liljon's924S]

alright I finally got new switches, put them in and only the passenger side goes down(but not back up), and the drivers side doesn't work at all? so now what? I took the relay out(I know its the right one because I blew a fuse by accident) and it has pt#321 919 505 on it and it has 4 prongs, if I remember isn't it supposed to be a different pt# and have 5 prongs? 5 wires go tothe connector but the relay only has 4 prongs. Any help would be a good thing, thanks

[Razorback1980]

I am not sure about the 924S but they are usually very similar to the 944. The 944 takes part number 944.615.116.00-M76 and the picture has five contacts on the side but I didn't take mine out to verify. Might be worth a call to Pelican tomorrow to see if that is the right part. It very well could be the wrong relay. Did your windows ever work or did they stop working?

[SoCal Driver]

The 321 is for the early 924's and 944's. I find a 944.615.112.01 listed just for the 924S's.

It's possible that the 116.00 m76 is an all in one replacement. The schematic does show five pins on the relay. However all of the window relays just pass the main power though from pin 2 to pin 4 or relay pin 30 to 87.

I think you have some bad wiring going through the door and into the chassis. You need the schematic for the 87 924S.

[SoCal Driver]

Here is the schematic:

[Keithr726]

I think the 924s is the same wiring as early 944s and they have been known for screwy windows. Did you replace all three switches, taking them apart and cleaning them couldn't hurt. That's how I got mine to work at least.

[bazar01]

As per SoCal Driver's schematic, here's how it works.

Red = +12V
Green = ground

1. Relays pins 2 & 4 is +12V power. Jump those pins in the socket to get power if relay is bad.
2. When switches are OFF, you should get +12V to ground on all switches at pins 1, 4, 5 & 2. Window motor will get +12V to ground on both terminals.

3. When you push driver side pass window switch, +12V is maintained on pins 2, 5 $ 4.
But this time, pin 1 is directed to pin 3 that leads to ground. The motor should operate the window.


Hope that helps.

[SoCal Driver]

Reversing switches are such a headache! Then you add a remote reversing switch and all heck breaks loose. As you can see by the logic flows it's not the main relay as all it does is switch the main power to the windows.

[liljon's924S]

The drivers side has always worked, up till now, the passenger side used to be touchy, I think it was because I had a bad switch, but now with new switches the drivers side doesn't work at all and the passenger went down but didn't go back up.

[SoCal Driver]

You now have as much information as the rest of us.

[JonA]

Don't get crazy, go back to the simple stuff first. Are the new switches set properly in the sockets? Are the sockets clean? Test the new switches out of the car, reading resistance with your meter.
Unless I am reading the schematic wrong the relay is just to accomodate the 2 switches that operate the passenger window. It should not cause the driver's side window problem. The switches are usually the problem.

Jon

[bazar01]

Wow, SoCal's diagram should be more than enough plus the color coded current flow.

You may want to take it to an automotive electrical shop. Electrical issues are sometimes way over our heads.
Good luck.

[SoCal Driver]

Electrical problems are a hands on fix. You have to start testing then redirect your testing depending on the results you get.

[bazar01]

I agree, that's why it costs so much to diagnose electrical issues at shop labor rates.
Mechanical issues, at least you can see the damage visually right off the bat.