Please recommend cheap wheels

[DaddyGlenn]

Now that I am feeling the addiction of autocross, I am thinking about my next significant expense: a second set of wheels with R compound tires.

I believe that my car has 16x6 and 16x7 wheels now and I'd like to increase the width and keep it decent looking but I am most interested in a low dollar solution.

Any recommendations or discussions on size, style, manufacturer and price will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

[cstreit]

I have CCW's which were not only reasonable, they look awesome! Kodiak is another common brand.

Here are the BBS look-alikes:

[Garen]

+1 for the CCW's. Nice wheels, and affordable compared to your other alternatives





-Garen (87 930)

[gostraight]

Originally posted by Garen
+1 for the CCW's. Nice wheels, and affordable compared to your other alternatives





-Garen (87 930)

AWESOME WHELS

How affordable are they?

I'm considering getting a set for my baby. I have 315/35/17in the rear and275/45/16 fronts. I'd like to go wider in the back- maybe 345/35/18rear and 285/35/18 fronts. Any thoughts on the price

[jester911]

Here is the website. They only give starting prices but I am sure you could email or call for exact quotes.

http://www.ccwheel.com/files/wheelprofiles.php

[Garen]

www.ccwheel.com

Thanks for the compliment!!

There is some pricing info on the site, and John mentioned that you can go wider. I think that you would have to relocate and/or modify the oil lines on the pas side.

Mine are the "classic" wheels, in street trim, which has less lightening holes and a center cap compared to CStreit's which are the race versions.

Finish is standard black anodized centers, with brushed/clear anodized lips & center caps. 17x11 315/35 & 17x9 255/40 Victoracers.

-Garen (87 930)

[gostraight]

excelent! Thanks guys....

[Plavan]

DAMN.... I called CCW them and they quoted me $2200 a set (16's- Race) Ouch. I would not say those are cheap. They do look good though.

[Jeff Alton]

Kodiak is another less expensive option. PM me if you are interested. Search "kodiak" and my user name or "catca" and you will see lots of pics....

Cheers

[gostraight]

Originally posted by Jeff Alton
Kodiak is another less expensive option. PM me if you are interested. Search "kodiak" and my user name or "catca" and you will see lots of pics....

Cheers

they're not any cheaper... for 18"x 13 ~ $650 that makes it ~2400 SET

[Jeff Alton]

Don't be fooled into thinking you need to pay full retail.... like I said, contact me if you are interested......

Also, the 2200 price for CCW's was for 16's. A set of 16x8 and 9 Kodiaks full retail is 1820. Cheaper? yes.

Cheers

[Mahler9th]

I'd plan for long term. The first question is what type of tires will be run. There are a lot of choices for sticky tires these days.... not like back when I first started 20 years ago. For AX, there may be an advantage running 16s (gearing) but I am how many manufacturers makes 16 inch sticky tires any more. Well, I guess that Toyo does since we have a racing class that uses 16 inch Toyos in the PRC. These are excellent tires.

The AX advantage for 16s may also be advantageous on the track...

If I concluded that 16s were what I was gonna run, then I'd consider another set of Fuchs. I'd network hard to find as good straight set at a fair price. The things hold their value.

If I were gonna run bigger wheels like 17s or 18s, I'd try to find a used set of wheels from some person that got into and then back out of competitive driving, that had the same kind of car.

The bigger wheels have some advantages, but some of that is likely traded off against gearing disadvantages.

- Mike (I run 16 inch slicks on my 911 race car)

[DaddyGlenn]

I appreciate the comments and suggestions so far. However, $2k is not what my budget considers inexpensive.

Given the price range we are in now, I will amend my original criteria by deleting the need to look good.

So they have to be cheap, ugly, cheap, functional for autocross, cheap, wider than 6" & 7" and ummm did I mention, cheap.

Also, Can I go to 7s and 8s without clearance problems?

[Garen]

Originally posted by Plavan
DAMN.... I called CCW them and they quoted me $2200 a set (16's- Race) Ouch. I would not say those are cheap. They do look good though.

Cheap is a relative term, especially when compared to BBS, Fikse, etc. I found that the wheels were fairly priced in the sizes I was looking for, compared to the above-mentioned options. Plus, I think that the CCW's look better than the Kodiaks. My $0.02.

Overall, you are right. 2200 absolute dollars is a good chunk of change. (BBS GT's are around 1700 each. Now that's money...)

-Garen (87 930)

[DaddyGlenn]

Question about another option....

If I put the R compound tires idea on hold for now and just went with a wider set of street tires, could I move my rear 7s to the front and then just shop for a set of 8" Fuchs for the rear?

[Jeff Alton]

Yes

[racer]

Originally posted by DaddyGlenn
I appreciate the comments and suggestions so far. However, $2k is not what my budget considers inexpensive.

Given the price range we are in now, I will amend my original criteria by deleting the need to look good.

So they have to be cheap, ugly, cheap, functional for autocross, cheap, wider than 6" & 7" and ummm did I mention, cheap.

Also, Can I go to 7s and 8s without clearance problems?

FUCHS:
1) 6/7 x16 will fit (Guessing.. $500-800 set)
2) 7/8 x 16 will fit (Guessing $800-1500 set)
3) 8/9x16 can fit with massaging (Guessing $1200-2000 set)

Alternates:
7x15 cookie cutters all around with cantilivered slicks
7/8x16 Phone Dials
7/8x15 Fuchs
17"s- While you may need adaptors, lots of 964/993 guys have "junked" their oem 17"s for bigger. They too can be found for under $1000.

But let me back up... While I applaud enthusiasm, I am curious as to your experience level. First event? 10th ? 100th? How else do you use the car? Ever DE'd? Daily driver?

My point is, you might consider taking the money spent on additional wheels, and put it towards seat time.

How is the car currently set up? Stock? Improved a bit? Full race car? How about your seat? What about ride height and alignment?

What about simply going to a better tire? Are you running a street tire? High performance tire? R compound tire? What size tire are you currently running?

What do the local regions rule book say about wheel/tire changes? Will it put you in a class that makes you uncompetitive?

Pick up a copy of "secrets of solo racing" by Henry Watts

[DaddyGlenn]

Originally posted by racer
..... I am curious as to your experience level. First event? 10th ? 100th? How else do you use the car? Ever DE'd? Daily driver?

My point is, you might consider taking the money spent on additional wheels, and put it towards seat time.

How is the car currently set up? Stock? Improved a bit? Full race car? How about your seat? What about ride height and alignment?

What about simply going to a better tire? Are you running a street tire? High performance tire? R compound tire? What size tire are you currently running?

What do the local regions rule book say about wheel/tire changes? Will it put you in a class that makes you uncompetitive?

Pick up a copy of "secrets of solo racing" by Henry Watts

Ahh, excellent questions.

I will run my third Ax this weekend. I am running SCCA events and after this weekend will be in the BSP class.

My car is a stock 1978 911sc with SSIs and a camber bar. It is literally a daily driver. I put 11-12K miles on it each year.

I am running street tires. I need to adjust my seat height a bit and am considering a new seat or lowering the seat rails. Tire changes seem to be the routine around here and it would not change my class.

Since it is a daily driver, I don't want to go to sticky street tires that will wear out from all my street driving. That is why I was thinking a second set. But perhaps it may be more reasonable to go to wider wheels with street tires for now, saving the R coumpound for later.

Here is the thread on my second outing:

Second outing

and finally, the book is on my shopping list.

P.S. I tend to think and research a year or so ahead of myself so the decisions I make based on the feedback here will probably not materize until I have many more event under my belt.

Thanks guys keep the thoughts and advice coming.

[pgeorgeson]

Look on the Pelican used parts forum. I picked up a set of used BBS wheels there about a year ago (7x16 and 8x16) for $600 plus shipping. They are a little faded, but otherwise in excellent shape and perfect for track wheels.

[HarryD]

Originally posted by DaddyGlenn
Ahh, excellent questions.

I will run my third Ax this weekend. I am running SCCA events and after this weekend will be in the BSP class.

My car is a stock 1978 911sc with SSIs and a camber bar. It is literally a daily driver. I put 11-12K miles on it each year.

I am running street tires. I need to adjust my seat height a bit and am considering a new seat or lowering the seat rails. Tire changes seem to be the routine around here and it would not change my class.

Since it is a daily driver, I don't want to go to sticky street tires that will wear out from all my street driving. That is why I was thinking a second set. But perhaps it may be more reasonable to go to wider wheels with street tires for now, saving the R coumpound for later.

Here is the thread on my second outing:

Second outing

and finally, the book is on my shopping list.

P.S. I tend to think and research a year or so ahead of myself so the decisions I make based on the feedback here will probably not materize until I have many more event under my belt.

Thanks guys keep the thoughts and advice coming.

DaddyGlen,

Frankly, keep most of your money in your pocket.

Use it for seat time and, if you must, a good set of street performance tires.

Other early improvements to consider include installing a harness to hold you in your seat better, and assuming your suspension bushings are in good shape (if not get them replaced), a trip to a Porsche race shop to lower/align/corner balance your car will also pay off. THe shop can give you a compromise so you can still ride on the street but get some of the benefit a tuned chassis.

I am on my 4th year and when I let one of the TTOD guys drive my car, they find 1-3 seconds over my best time.