OK, in all fairness, I believe that back in 1992, Toyota sold a Camry SE. Maybe it was a Camry, and it only had 168 or so HP. But it was the sporty Camry, tuned to go up against the higher HP (190?) Maxima (remember their "4 door sports car" ad tagline back then?). Kind of an automotive Q-ship for those who couldn't afford an M5. I'd give him some props if he's got a Camry SE.