[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Yeah but he's dead now so let's lighten up. The Wilson boys of Beach Boys fame had a tyrant of a father as well. Maybe it takes that to get adolescents to knuckle down and produce some music.

I kinda feel sorry for anyone at either end of that business.

I think it's more a matter of, that's what it takes to whore out your kids for your own personal gain. I always felt sorry for MJ, insanely talented guy who was tainted for life by a messed up childhood and home life, ultimately ending in his death.