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Originally Posted by legion
That's exactly it David. I think there are plenty of intelligent students out there who would be better off not going to college and not accumulating a hug debt to work in a job they hate and doesn't pay all that well.
I do things with my hands on weekends to recharge from the soul-sucking office environment. I am fortunate to have a well-paying job and to have gotten a degree when they were much cheaper than they are now.
BTW, I was in a 100º+ attic last summer, with a halogen lamp to install a proper ventilation system for my bathroom vents.
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And it sucked 100%. Now spend an entire day or two in an attic like that installing a new system because the old one failed and the homeowner can't live without A/C or the office needs A/C for the computer systems. I have built homes, installed HVAC systems both residential and commercial. I know what the job requires and I just don't think a lot of people are willing to put their body through it. I know I regret putting mine through it. I know what plumbers and electricians go through as well. The other aspect when talking about plumbing, electrical or HVAC specifically is the on call time. There's a lot to be said for a decent 9-5 which is why I decided that saving for my kids college was the best thing I could do for them so they could work with their mind rather than their body. Working in a lot of the trades will make you old before you're actually old.