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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc

Great advice from everyone as usual thank you . While I didn't mention it in my original post the Ford Flex was/is a consideration . But I will be honest Toyota quality is hard to go away from . I know the domestics are much much better and are very close in quality but this RAV4 is the 4th Toyota we have had and ALL have been as reliable as a stove
Anyone purchased a car through Carvana ? I have looked on their website some it is an interesting business model .

I have to drive nearly to Atlanta to get to a Carmax dealership but good advice thanks . I have the money ready to go just need to find the right vehicle . I will keep you guys posted .

Toyota makes good cars, but no better than anyone else. Their reputation was forged in the 1980s and 1990s when they were making probably the highest quality cars in the world. They no longer have that lead. Our last car was a 2017 Toyota Sienna XLE AWD that we despised. It was terrible to drive, the features were poorly designed and not user friendly, it felt cheap inside, and was overpriced. Go into your search with eyes wide open.

I'm totally biased but we love our Flex. 365 HP, AWD, comfort for 6 adults (captain's chairs), and really good to drive.

Originally Posted by Norm K

The minivan is too often rejected out-of-hand by young families - particularly by moms who attach some sort of negative stigma to them. Never mind that it's almost certainly a better choice for the majority of families who claim they desire comfort, convenience, reliability, safety, flexibility and roominess, but who are clearly willing to forego those things, instead eschewing what is obviously the best option. And all because they don't want to appear "uncool".

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If you have young kids, totally agree. We've had a Mazda MPV, Mazda5 (mini-minivan), Nissan Quest, and Toyota Sienna. When you are in the stroller and carseats phase of family life they cannot be beat. Now that my kids are older we no longer need that level of practicality and moved onto the Flex, which offers almost the same levels of space and comfort but in a much more enjoyable package.