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Join Date: May 2002
Location: North County San Diego
Posts: 8,892
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^ decent fully manual machine. Our Starbucks barista was exactly that with different labels. Lasted almost 2 decades and I never cleaned it. Search espresso on this forum. We recently bought a Breville with built in bean hopper and grinder. That is all separate from the brewing process. I have ZERO faith in the full automatic machines.
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