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Originally Posted by aigel
IMHO that french roast from Costco is burnt. Too dark. Try something medium. Try Lavazza Espresso Gran Crema (Amazon).
I am well traveled including France and Italy and don't taste a noticeable difference between my auto espresso and something they make in the birth place of the drink. But I can't say I have had them back to back either.
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Allow me to completely discredit myself...
Massive exceptions but I had to look pretty hard to find good coffee in big parts of Italy and France. Color me shocked. Especially with how snooty everyone is. I think root problem is that customers don’t want to pay for good beans, frankly the coffee was bad before it was ground. believe it or not many baristas didn’t know how to fill the portafilter, a monkey could do better. I mostly stopped drinking coffee while there (with some massive exceptions in bologna)
Birthplace of drink - clearly there was a time when espresso was a thing in Italy, there’s cafes here that pull insanely good coffee on 100 year old Italian machines, but in Italy today you’ve nailed it... it mostly tastes like lavazza from a full auto machine, generally machine is too hot. no wonder folks in Europe pay extra for nestle instant coffee.
Best coffee I had overseas was a cup of drip in bkk, at Siam center? Top floor they served pourover. Was a blend of Sumatra and some Thai bean. Damn that was a cup for the ages. Billowy fruit, pepper, big body but smooth as anything. Only as I was leaving did I realize it was Starbucks!!! 🙀 Course that single cup of drip cost $4, which is a good meal for 2 in bkk.
