[sammyg2]

I have three brothers, 6 years difference in age from the oldest to youngest.

we were all raised in the same house with same parents, but different environments.
We all know the first born gets more attention good or bad, by the 3rd or 4th they pretty much just hope for the best.

Things change.
But were are also different people with different personalities and different stories.
I believe that good parents sets high expectations, firm and CONSISTENT boundaries and strongly reinforce the difference between right and wrong at an early age, and teach morals. by the time the kid is 13 it's too late.

I remember a neighbor kid my age that was a real terror. Always out of control.
One time when he was around 14 he was tearing the trim off his mom's car. Right in front of her.
She said to him "honey, don't do that.
Honey, please don't, I'm begging you.
Then she turned to me and said "I just don't know what to do with him".
I said if I acted like that I'd get the crap knocked out of me.
She said she didn't believe in that.

He was in prison before he was 21, I heard he got out a while back. His older brother was murdered when he was in his 20's.

His dad was usually too drunk to do any parenting. He was a businessman drunk who went to lunch with clients and stayed there until it was time to go home around 7, and pass out.
Just about every day.
Bad parents. Their fault.