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Go in knowing roughly what the car is worth retail based on make, model, and mileage, and make sure they are in the ballpark. If it is a great car, "the deal" becomes far less important. If it has been thrashed and beaten on, you probably don't want it at any price.
No way to know in advance what $$ they have in the car or how far you can grind them.
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2021 Cayman GTS 4.0L
2020 Macan (dog hauler)
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