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Originally Posted by speeder
I assumed that he was in the trades since he said that it happens repeatedly but that doesn't change my answer. Fire anyone who leaves rusty or pre-rusted nails in a tub. You can only have so much schit-for-brains on a job site before it tips over.
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Not to hijack the thread, but having been a contractor for 48 years I have seen the deterioration of the building trades over the years. When I first became a general and was building room adds, I was 10-12 years in the biz. I was still young for a general and I used to hire other contractors that were older than me. I learned a hell of a lot from these cats. I used the hood of my truck for an office and wrote checks then and there. They were good men and weren't sloppy.
Nowadays, I'm just an old man to most of those in the trades right up until I walk up and show almost any worker a little secret. I gain some respect a little bit at a time. But would you think that any of these workers would pick up their burrito wrappers? Not a chance and getting all wound up about that just undermines the process. Just like a coach, you have to instill spirit.
Is it acceptable to leave a nail in the tub? Fook no, but siht happens. The one thing I know now is to walk the entire job once a day, even if that means picking up burrito wrappers.
Denis, you have little tolerance, something I know first hand. It won't work if you're trying to coordinate 20 guys. And there is one thing you can't do and that is fire someone else's employees. That's sometimes a problem although just last January I ran a plumber, working for a company, off the job. And it cost me personally some money but it was worth every cent. But if I 'fired' everyone of the jokers that wasn't up to high standards every minute of every day, I would never get a completed job. Actually, I'd get sabotaged.
I heard the plumber got fired not long after that which validated my action. But I didn't get my money back.
Back to the thread, standing water or not, a tub protector should always be in place. Especially for fiberglass. And in my experience, standing water is only needed for one day at the most. In fact, I don't see the need for it at all. The DWV system is checked for leaks way before a tub or shower pan is installed. But if the trap for a tub needs to be checked, then that's how it's done. Might be a good idea before covering up the ceiling below. My inspectors don't require that, though.