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Originally Posted by speeder
It's ALL in the breeding. You can adjust behavior somewhat w socializing and training but if the genetics are fked up, forget it.  |
Denis is, of course, discussing mankind's long history of carefully planned, directed breeding of domestic animals to bring out specific characteristics that we may deem desirable in them. Anything from faster race horses to cows with greater milk production. With dogs, we have bred faster racing dogs, more adept retrievers, guard dogs for both our livestock and ourselves, and on and on. Animals painstakingly bred for specific purposes, over many, many generations.
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Originally Posted by Alan A
Wonder if you feel the same about people?
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In sharp contrast to our ongoing efforts with our domestic animals, I'm unaware of anyone having purpose bred humans for any specific characteristics. No one is breeding faster sprinters, bigger football players, more intelligent scientists, or anything at all like that. Unless I've somehow missed all of that.
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Originally Posted by Alan A
Sounds like you and James Watson would get on famously. I otoh tend a bit more towards Joseph Graves in this case and think Nurture > Nature
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Amazing. So, in your world, one who argues that breeding plays a role in canine behavior must also be a racist. I quite honestly would not have made that connection. That's simply brilliant.
By the way, if you really want to go down the path of trotting out James Watson in a discussion about dog breeding, you may want to review what is widely acknowledged as one of the definitive studies on human intelligence. If you are really lucky, maybe you can find something these guys have published concerning canine intelligence and behavior. At least that way it might be relevant to this discussion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve