[Wil Ferch]

Again....I have no dog in this fight....just trying to help a friend get a toe-hold on this idea where-ever he can gain one. Being a M-B wheel, he tried M-B first. As is clearly stated in my opening remarks, he also approached BBS and other suppliers, either as OEM suppliers or aftermarket wheel suppliers....separately.

Aside....he also said this, after he had a slew of patent and trade mark attorneys on both sides of the Atlantic look at this, for them all to pronounce---> " This image only consists of simple geometric shapes or text. It does not meet the threshold of originality needed for copyright protection, and is therefore in the public domain.

As I said, he is looking for help or guidance on where to move forward, and I suggest we let John and "Vlocci" (see his post above) talk it out. I think we can sit this out until those talks happen and if John is thereafter looking for further advice if stalemated. I think this will reduce the level of churn that unfortunately a question like this seems to create. Sorry 'bout that.