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Originally Posted by Googam View Post
Can't comment on X3's, but I've always owned wagons. Bought a 2016 Toyota RAV4 & didn't like it. It's not a car. Just purchased one of these. 2018 Buick TourX Essence. Check out the specs & options for $30,000. 75% Opel made in Germany with a Japanese 8 speed tranny & GM motor.
I've actually seen one of those Buick wagons on the road the other day and it was sharp, if we're talking about the same model. No way I'm buying a new car, though. I'm a cheap SOB and I want someone else's depreciated wagon. An X3 that cost some poor bastard $45k a few short years ago is now $15k and still looks like new.

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Denis, I get an X3 every time I bring my 535 in for service (at Motorwerks, I highly recommend them). I really don’t like them. I beg to have them give me a 3 series sedan instead, even their plain Jane 328 loaners. It may be just my prejudice, but I find the X3 uncomfortable and rattly and not that great for space. On the other hand, a friend I used to work with has had X3s for a decade or so and loves them. So your milage might vary. I do think you’ll be happier with a real wagon or a larger hatchback that has the same room or more than a compact SUV and has the driving dynamics of a real car.
I'll have to drive one somehow. As far as driving dynamics goes, it's basically a 3-series w a different body on it. With sport package, it should handle like a kart. One small note is that I don't like any new BMWs, they have turned a weird corner in about 2014/15 wrt overwrought technology and styling changes. Sweet spot is about 2012-14 w the 3.0 or 3.5 turbo and sport package. It would be a rocket. Online research says they are not too bad for crapping the bed if you avoid the turbo 4-cylinder models.

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Can't beat a Subaru Legacy Outback wagon.
Great utility cars, (my stepdad has had a couple), but not appealing to me at all for a DD. I occasionally drive a new one that belongs to a GF, Ok car but it sucks for me.

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Check out the Volvo V60 R-Design. Mine is a 2015 and it's been flawless. 60K miles already and never been in for more than an oil change. The R-Design model is a rocket. Not going to beat an M3, but certainly faster than any non-M.

The seats fold down perfectly flat and I there's just as much space as my old Cayenne. I put my mountain bike back there, and my 150 lbs dog. Best sport seats I've ever sat in.

You can pick up a 2015 for low 20's.



That thing is very appealing. I once owned a V-70R and like Volvos. A little more than I want to spend, I'm thinking teens and something to park anywhere...if it gets a ding, oh well. Nice car, though.
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