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Originally Posted by svandamme View Post
word to that.

making ammo
the travel to matches
shooting
returning
cleaning guns

it's very consuming.

It's a game of variables really.
let's say it's 20 variables that can go from 0 to 100 % correct
Some will have a bigger impact then others

Going off on one variable might be compensated by another variable pushing the error in the other direction.

Ex 1 MOA aiming error to the left, compensated by 1MOA wind reading error to the right.

The goals is to get all the variables right, ALL the time.

aim
eyebox
breathing
positioning (sling/body)
wind
shooter focus
barometric
coreolis (if you go really far)
Barrel build
barrel cleaning
trigger work
shooting position
bullet shape
bullet weight
case volume
case weight
neck tension
powder charge
primer
seat depth

There's more, but you get the idea.
You can get lucky once
twice, but TR matches is usually around 60 shots in succesison..

All these guys that show you a 3 shot or 5 shot MOA group

It's a joke ... That does not cover the statistical variation of anything.
a 3 or 5 shot 1/2 MOA group is getting lucky for the most part.,
(they typically don't show you the 20 or so ****tie moa groups they layed down before and after their good group..)


My main problem was focus, If i over think it i start getting impatient and i screw up.
My best results where when I arrived late, they told me to hurry, and I said F it. and rapid fired my shots
Got silver for that one , 6 5 400 yds falling back, WW2 service rifle
Throw black powder and all of the issues it introduces into the mix, along with casting and sorting bullets, and the time commitment goes up substantially. The requirement to clean cases (and not just tumble them), drop tubing every charge into the case (and we actually never weight them, it's all by volume), seating an over powder wad of some sort and compressing the powder (in an operation separate from seating the bullet). Then there is bullet clocking in the case - we file a notch in the case rim on the same place on each case relative to the headstamp, so we can see it to clock the case in the shell holder. This helps us clock the bullet in the case by using the mold seam and the direction of the drag mark when the sprue is cut. This makes a difference with cast bullets in match ammo.

So, yeah, lots of work just preparing ammo. I have a couple of grocery bags full of medals and a shelf full of trophies... all won in my basement, not on the range. The shooting was the easy part.
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