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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins
I simply (and politely) asked you if you could please stick to the topics at hand. .. Do you have anything to contribute?
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I have to agree. Here, in PPOT, we seem to be remarkably able to have VERY interesting exchanges of observations and perspectives. We welcome those of Choc or anyone. Personal attacks....not so much. PARF is an excellent place for that.
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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins
Oh, no, I'm sorry Tobra, I probably wasn't all that clear about what I was trying to say. Yes, absolutely, I agree with everything you say.
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I read through this thread which I have not seen since last night. You guys have been busy. I am glad I read though each post. When I saw Tobra's post on Page 4, I thought somebody should validate that guy's observations. Thank you for doing that, Jeff.
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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins
So, yes, indeed - we can "fix" some of this by addressing the societal factors contributing to it. ... But ... we cannot "fix" all of it in this manner.
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I think Tobra is onto something. If families were set up right and social mores were enforced (like they were when you and I were riding bikes), then I wonder how much of this problem would NOT get fixed. Little, I think.
And yet, I don't have the answers. And BTW Jeff, opioids are a completely different ballgame where upbringing is irrelevant.