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The stupidest mtherfkers on the planet were GW as personified by Chaney and Rumsfeld.. they didn't have a clue as to what they were getting into or...they thought what had happened in the past didn't fking matter as the American legions were invincible and this time it would be different.

When GW looked for another way he picked up on Peteraus's ideas. Yet Peteraus wasn't so special, all he did was read the books and pay attention. Petraeus was able to adapt American military orthodoxy to meet the extengiencies on the ground.

American bureaucratic military orthodoxy is great when fighting a defined enemy a quite another when you are fighting an enemy who snipes at you from.behing evey rock and bush. Your very orthodoxy in that case works against you.

It seems that finally after 20 years in the bush the American military has adapted by going small scale sic e.g. using the same tactics as the enemy. Supported with the larger logistics capability and in using air power to give the decisive edge.

These places are virtually no win theaters. The goal is to neutralize the festering sore so that it does not escaluate. You do not want the cancers to morph and spread.

In the final analysis the Liberal mindset of tolerance of Islam is delusional as the precept of Islam is to have a pan Islamic theocratic world. It is their precept vs Western civilizations precept of the division of religion and secularism.. it is their way as set out by the infaliable Prophet or the highway at the point of a sword.