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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr
Understand a lot more than you give me credit for
Just for clarity I read it that the main root cause of your problem is not your car or the other super hero cars/drivers or the tracks or the organisers but your resistance to accept you need to change your game.
Cajundaddy gets it  , maybe his post's will be of help as he seems to still enjoy himself in a similar/less performance car to yours without slowing up others
Might be worth asking him how his approach and what he does differs from how you go about doing trackdays. Somehow I think even if he was to say you wouldn't be interested or listen |
Uh, no - this reply indicates more so than ever that you simply do not get it. Not in the least. Cajundaddy's post indicates that he runs with an organization that allows open passing. Our local PCA does not, as I have stated time and time again. That simple difference changes everything. Others are able to understand that difference (see below, and read other replies in this thread) - I'm at a loss as to why you do not. The local situation in my area has been
very clearly explained. You are clearly unwilling to listen to, or understand, these clear explanations. You obviously do not understand the difference between "open passing" and "restricted passing" and the impact that difference has on what happens at a track day. Oh well.
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Originally Posted by wdfifteen
My mistake, I thought the issue was the cars. It's the rules. The DEs I've run at Mid-Ohio, if there is a car on your bumper you are expected to move right and wave them around. You can pass anywhere on the track. Let them by and get back to driving your car. It works great.
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Yup, that is
the crux of the problem - the rules - no open passing. All passing is done in designated passing zones. Violating them will get you sent home. As a result, the fast cars crawling up your bumper are forced, by the rules, to wait for the designated passing zones.
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Originally Posted by aschen
I only occassionally do low key hpde events so i am a bit confused. Cant just run in a slower class? This group has gt3s on near slicks and purpose built hpde cars on Hoosiers but only has very limited passing?
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Even the
slowest non-beginner class in this area, at PCA track days, is populated with GT3's, modern Turbos, GT4's, and the like. Running on dedicated track day tires or even on slicks. Passing limited by the rules. Even a beginning driver, in those cars, will out-run a seasoned driver in any air cooled car. One could bring out a real 3.0 RSR and still get buried by these new cars driven by first time drivers. The cars are that good.
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Originally Posted by rattlsnak
Do they have SCCA Track Night in America track nights where you are? I've been to a few of those and they are a total blast.. You car would dominate the middle class.. I have some friends that have gone this route for that reason.
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Yes, I have done several of those events, and they are wonderful. They get a real mix of cars, with nowhere near the GT2, GT3, GT4 saturation level of our local PCA events. I run every one I can, in the "A" group, and have a ball. Never feel like I'm holding up the entire group. This is kind of one of the last havens for those of us with older cars. Unfortunately, there just are not that many being held around here.