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Erdinger Dunkel was my beer of choice while living in Germany!

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Originally Posted by astrochex View Post
Fwiw, said beer is available online at https://www.westvleterenbeers.com/shop. Pricey stuff.
I'm pretty sure that website has nothing to do with the official Sint Sixtus Abbey. Officially, the only place you can buy their beer is through their beer sale (now online instead of "beerphone" but still with great difficulty), or in the cafe run by the abbey directly across the street. The price of a crate works out to be €60 (vs. €295 on this website) including the deposit for the pallet + bottles. The cafe sells 6 packs at a slightly higher price, I think around €30. The brothers are explicit in their wish for this beer to be only available through these outlets. I don't think it has much to do with artificially driving up the demand - it's already there. As you can see, if they decided to increase production and sell online, they can easily undercut the grey/black market sellers and still make much higher profit than what they're getting now. I understand they officially exported to the US and Canada for their fundraiser round, and some shops still seem to be selling these, but not this website. I get that when you mix demand and scarcity, a black market is bound to exist, but still pisses me off. If any of you come my way I'll gladly offer you a bottle at cost! Definitely can't give these away for free

On the topic of memorials. Even though I have no personal connection owing to the fact that I'm a 1.5th generation naturalised Canadian, it still struck me hard just how many names there were, and how young most of them would have been when they were killed. I think the Hollywood depiction of WW1/2 left me with a rather "romanticised" idea of the conflicts, which I admit is shameful. More recent productions seem to do a better job of showing the reality (still just guessing). It certainly gives me a new perspective when I see these sites and read the names. I'm grateful for all those who sacrificed everything and those who continue to do so.

Another couple of places we've visited that's significant in Canadian history: Dieppe and the Menin Gate in Ypres. One day I will do a proper tour of Normandy.





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