[NutmegCarrera]

I've always been pessimistic about them. Then, I did my first oil change on wife's Q7 (we had the maintenance plan by Audi until recently). Got really sick of my independent mechanic. Mainly because he charged me $125 when my wife asked him to fill up the DEF (It's a TDi). Then, the next time, I pre-empted it by putting DEF in prior to the oil change. He still found a way to put a gallon in. So - I use him only when I need him.

....back to the point - What a royal PITA to dump the oil out of that thing. The front underpan won't come off - so you basically dump the oil onto the back 3" or so, and let that run into your catch pan. Then the stupid thing drips on the garage floor for a few days. Kind of like the first time the independent guy did it.
All that, and the oil filter is an 'element only' type deal that you get out from the top.
Therefore - oil extractor for me on that vehicle from now on.
Oh, and my Subaru 3.6R has nearly as miserable of an undergrad, too. Unfortunately, I still need to get down there to get to the filter.

Figure I'll be changing the oil more frequently than the 10k mile dealer recommendation - so pulling it out the tube doesn't sound all that horrible.

That's my rationale.