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oooohboyohboyohboy. I don't mouth off much here, but this time I just can't resist. so here goes
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Originally posted by CamB
Generally speaking, liberals don't like that. They see the bigger picture - what lies beyond the current conflict
had the liberals had their way, the status-quo would have been preserved, the inspectors would still be running around Iraq looking like fools on wild-goose chases, thousands of Iraquis would still be dying at the hands of a despot and his two sons, Russia and France would still be profiteering from the so-called Iraqui oil embargo, and terrorism would still be getting a substantial financial boost from the coffers of Saddam's regime. this, kind sir, would have been the "bigger picture" that would have prevailed had the US not intervened. a reality that the libs were too unwilling to see in their abject hate of a man trying to protect the interests of his fellow americans

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Seriously, I see this as the post-war Bush supporter rationale - there are no WMD, the war cost a lot, the UN didn't want us to invade, but the end justifies the means.
"there are no WMD:" don't cash those chips in just yet

"the war cost a lot:" freedom always does. but it's still tons cheaper than sitting there doing a U.N. (i.e. nothing)

"the UN didn't want us to invade:" ***** in one hand and want in the other - see which gets fuller first. oh yeah, and I want a million bucks
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...because in February, the UN didn't say "you may never invade Iraq". They said "wait for more proof". It would have come eventually,
at the cost of more dead Iraquis, more time for Saddam to prepare himself, and further chances of terrorism. ever noticed that things have been relatively quiet on the terrorist front lately? this isn't because Saddam (or anyone else for that matter) turned out not to be a threat, but rather because the terrorist world took note and came to the realization that the US doesn't screw around any longer
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and if nothing else, the last 9 months have proved Saddam wasn't much of a threat to anyone but his own people.
I'd like to see you use that logic the next time a neighbor (yours or otherwise) takes his drunken rage out on his own family. where's that liberal idealism when it's actually appropriate?
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And not supporting the war does not make one a Saddam apologist or anti-American.
absolutely not. however, it doesn't make one the sharpest knife in the drawer either (eeeasy with the flamethrower, there. I said 'one' not 'you' )

ANYHOOOO. having said all that, Cam, 350, Todd, or anyone else with leftist leanings for that matter... should any of you ever dare to lose your way into my neighborhood, be forewarned. I shall have no choice but to drag you down to the local pub and settle this issue properly over a few pints or Scotch and sodas. (or lemondrops, if you prefer) I know some of you are likely to go into epileptic seizures should I even dare attempt an invocation of any deity, much less a Christian one, but here goes anyway: God bless our freedom of speech, boys!

best of health to you all and see you on the road!


and oh yeah, those meandering with a bit of a rightward tilt - Wayne, tabs (sometimes) etc, are invited too. Island said he was buying
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