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Originally posted by CamB
That's your opinion!
of course it is! and a damned good one too
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Thousands of Iraqis may well have been dying, but there are other genocides and politicides in the world*.
once again. just because there may be other murders happening across town or in another state doesn't preclude me from stopping one that is right in front of me. I reiterate, where's the idealism when it's sorely needed??
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They contributed to terrorism in the Middle East, yes, but again I understand they were not the greatest contributor.
whether Saddam was the greatest contributor or not is not the point, that he was a SUBSTANTIAL contributor is
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I guess the question is "do I think Iraq would be better off if Saddam was still in power". The simple answer is that I think the world would better off if the UN-led process had run its course
say what??? how would the world have been better off with more uncerainty, chances for terrorism and continued genocide? and in what way may I ask is the world any worse off now that this situation has begun to be dealt with?? (just curious )
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This is a good point. I am not convinced that there was a case for Saddam getting stronger, but its not like I am the CIA here. Did the pre-war evidence (if viewed objectively) really suggest he was an increasing threat?
remember one other thing that most people are wont to overlook: Saddam did have more than ten years to straighten out his act and comply with UN resolutions, which he never did. this was also a large reason why it was time to say "enough is enough"
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I'm not so sure about this. It is just that there is other stuff in the news (ie, the war and rebuild)? I'm pretty sure that the situation in Israel/Palestine isn't improving much, and that there have been ongoing attacks of various kinds throughout the Middle East and South East Asia (note attack on Pakistan President today). I agree that, other than the terrorist (guerilla?) attacks against Coalition troops in Iraq, there may have been a reduction in attacks against US interests.
agreed. what the media decides to put in front of its audience does in large part influence and shape said audience's "world view." however, the motive of the daily bombings in Israel is somewhat independent of what has happened with Saddam and the attacks in Pakistan and SEA are at the moment being purveyed by those that do not immediately fear the wrath of the US
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Again, this is the "killing his own people argument". I am very glad it has stopped, I am very sad it continues in other parts of the world. If the US is looking to sweep brutal dictators/regimes from the world, I hope the broom is very large.
and that's not looking either to the left or to the right, but straight ahead. onward and upward, my friend


and oh yeah, lest I forget:
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* I've got no idea how good that site is as a source, I just went for quickest and easiest.
LMAO, you opportunist you
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