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Originally Posted by cabmando

It wasn't a brand thing for me. It was all about feel. I held Glock, CZ, Baretta, Walther, Taurus, Springfield and a few others. The Springfield felt the best in my hand.

That's the flavor you like. Cool. Some people are buying BBQ guns as opposed to defensive weapons.

Originally Posted by tabs

As for the Austrians ehh...very functional at a reasonable cost..but it's fkin plastic for gawds sake..

You do know it is a polymer coated metal frame, right? The 'plastic gun' rants is as much sound logic as 'a Porsche is just an overgrown Volkswagen so don't own one".

Originally Posted by 911Ghia

I have the luxury of shooting at home...Folks come over to shoot, some friends from Chicago some from around here. My berm is 10 ft tall and 25 ft wide. Can’t believe how many folks with concealed carry permits can stand 7 yards from the target and put all 15 or 17 rounds into the top 10 inches of the berm........that perp would have been safe. And seems like the ones that can’t hit anything load up their mags to the max and blast away.
Rich

I envy you having the ability to shoot at home. You hit my point right on the bulls-eye. If you can shoot properly you won't need more than one or two double taps. If you think you need 20-30 rounds then IMO either you can't hit the broadside of a barn or, you think you are going to be in a John Wick movie. Defensive shooting is usually at close range (less than 5 yards maybe 7-10 max) and, after the first 4 rounds, if you haven't hit the perp you are dead anyway.

Originally Posted by cabmando

"Wait! Hold it!... this was only supposed to last 5 rounds. Can I reload?"

Are you saying you can't it a target 10-12 feet away in the first 5 shots?

Originally Posted by Eric Coffey

To expand on the "guns are like fire extinguishers" analogy...

Also, if you ever find yourself in a situation where you need to use a 9mm "extinguisher", rest assured that your fine motor skills will go to crap from the resultant adrenaline dump.
Case(s) in point: There have been numerous OIS incidents where a lot more than 20 rounds were exchanged without a single hit on either side.

But they aren't fire extinguishers and more isn't better if you have never practiced. The key is to prepare so that you have muscle memory. See Ghia's post above.

Bottom Line: I hear people saying they need a 20-25-30 round mag. Carry a hundred rounds if you want. I just don't see the need during concealed carry - it just adds weight. The exception is you are walking through gang turf or target shooting and want to focus instead of reload. Just my unqualified opinion.