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Originally Posted by Por_sha911
You do know it is a polymer coated metal frame, right? The 'plastic gun' rants is as much sound logic as 'a Porsche is just an overgrown Volkswagen so don't own one".
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Glocks do not have "polymer coated metal" frames. However, I completely agree that arguments against their utility/robustness lack merit.
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Originally Posted by Por_sha911
If you think you need 20-30 rounds then IMO either you can't hit the broadside of a barn or, you think you are going to be in a John Wick movie. Defensive shooting is usually at close range (less than 5 yards maybe 7-10 max) and, after the first 4 rounds, if you haven't hit the perp you are dead anyway.
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Yeah, I think 30-round "extended" magazines are not very practical for EDC applications, but 10-18 in a "standard" magazine is usually not an issue for most, depending on the specifics. As I mentioned above, a lot goes out the window if you find yourself shooting on a "2-way" range. Namely your fine motor skills go to chit, and your adrenaline dumps/spikes. It's not the same as a nice, air-conditioned, well-lit range shooting at high-contrast paper targets, that are stationary, at known distances, that don't shoot back, and don't have any cover, while you're wearing ear-pro.
If you are OK with carrying a 6-7 shot pistol, that is certainly your prerogative. I just don't pretend that I would be a steady-handed, steely-eyed Harry Callahan if the SHTF. So, I'll take as many rounds as I can (comfortably) carry, than you.
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Originally Posted by Por_sha911
Are you saying you can't it a target 10-12 feet away in the first 5 shots?
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I think he simply understands the above. I am sure most of us could easily produce respectable groups on a stationary paper target that is 10-12 feet away, that isn't shooting back.
The problem is that most potential bad-guys are not made out of paper, and they probably won't stand still at known-distances for you, while promising not to shoot back.
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Originally Posted by Por_sha911
But they aren't fire extinguishers and more isn't better if you have never practiced. The key is to prepare so that you have muscle memory. See Ghia's post above.
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Sorry, it's a fairly common analogy...
A gun (in the context of self-defense)
is much like a fire extinguisher. It is a tool for a situation that you hope never occurs, and is even unlikely to occur, but you carry one anyway. And yes, in the unlikely event of a fire, I'd want the biggest extinguisher I could find (and would be regretting choosing a really tiny one at that moment, just because it was cheaper/lighter/smaller/etc.). Obviously, there are rational/practical happy-mediums, and of course something is always better than nothing. YMMV there I suppose.