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Originally Posted by Mahler9th
"I think we should fully reopen - all businesses, schools, public gatherings - all of it."
Do you think the number of Covid-19-related lawsuits would increase if this were the case? If so, do you think anything should be done about it? If so what?
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I am unaware of any COVID related lawsuits outside of those filed against elderly care facilities by grieving families, and those filed by various states' Attorney Generals against businesses that had the audacity to open in defiance of Governors' orders. Can you provide examples?
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Originally Posted by Mahler9th
Pretty sure that concerns over liability related to Covid-19 sequela had something to do with recent Big 10 and Pac 10 decisions to cancel Fall sport (I was a college athlete so I have perhaps more personal thoughts about this).
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I disagree. And I was a college athlete myself, but I would never suggest that participating at that level has provided me with any sort of special insight. Perhaps if I were involved in the administration of college level athletics, but certainly not just from kicking a football around on the pitch.
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Originally Posted by Mahler9th
Do you think that the fact that Sweden has different legal and healthcare systems makes comparisons more difficult or challenging in any way? If so how? If not why not? I think these things may matter.
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I do not. I thought we were discussing the health ramifications of this pandemic, with you having more or less discounted the political aspect of it. I include the legal ramifications of this under the "political" side of the ledger, and have already said I believe that it plays far too much of a role in our response. You have argued against that and, once again, appear to have changed course and are now saying it makes a difference. Which is it?
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Originally Posted by Mahler9th
Same questions about culture in Sweden versus US?
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Yes, there is a profound cultural difference. Americans are defiant, Swedes more or less do what they are told. There is far greater trust in government and in any sort of "officials" in general in Sweden than here in the U.S. - I believe that stems, in a large part, from the corrupted media/politician relationship that I previously alluded to. Americans are rightfully skeptical - we have been lied to, repeatedly, over too many issues.
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Originally Posted by Mahler9th
"Yet every single COVID related death is still being reported."
Why would you expect otherwise? We don't have "state" news. We have capitalism. If humans "like" this kind of news, shouldn't Fox, CNN, MSNBC, et cetera be allowed to do whatever they want to optimize their businesses without government intervention of any kind? Folks can always turn of their televisions and/or shut down their computers, right?
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I certainly do not "expect otherwise", and gave no indication that I do. I believe that I stated, very clearly, my understanding of how our media has been corrupted by only reporting "what sells". I also decried the fact that, because it "sells", that our media is vastly over-emphasizing every COVID related death. And yes, I do wish more Americans would "turn off" this "news", having described it as a "symbiotic relationship" that feeds on itself, to everyone's detriment. I thought I was pretty clear on all of that.
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Originally Posted by Mahler9th
We'll certainly see what happens.
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Yes, we will.
I have now outlined my position, I believe fairly clearly, with my reasons for having adopted it. What is your position, and what has led you to it?