[cabmandone]

Bells makes some good stuff but so does Founders. I think Founders KBS is 13%. I like Bells Porter and Stout. I made a Dogfish 90 minute IPA that would have your head spinning after about 3. Good stuff. IPA's take a healthy amount of base malt with some crystal and caramel thrown in for a nice malty profile then hop the hell out of it Just have to make sure the yeast can handle the high alcohol content. I think my 5 gallon batch took 19 lbs of grain which is REALLY heavy on the grain bill when you consider my 10 gallon batch of Kolsch takes about 21 lbs of grain total.