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Originally Posted by look 171

Woodworking vice is quick release. Turn the handle to the left, you can literally pull it straight out 14" in half second. Insert piect, push back up against work piece in half second, 1/4 turn of the handle to tighten is all you will need. The other type of vice requires you to stand there, turn it all day to get it to open and tighten. Woodworking vice allow you to lay the piece flat on the table to drill, sand, whatever. I have a few old ones hanging around that needs cleaning. They are the old fashion, heavy duty commercial vice. They are worth a couple hundred bucks but if you are willing to get your hands dirty with a can of oil and a steel wool pad, its my house warming gift to you. Its heavy but you will have to pay for shippping. Its A LOT better then most on the market today.

like this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/WILTON-4-Deep-x-7-Wide-Vintage-Woodworkers-Bench-Vise-1-Diam-Screw/254751456527?hash=item3b505ebd0f:g:kU0AAOSwKVtcrRr j

That would be super generous of you! I'd be happy to use a bunch of elbow grease and pay for shipping for sure. No rush, just when it's convenient for you. Just let me know what you need.

Originally Posted by look 171

Buy yourself a Japanese pull saw. I find they are superior, easier to control, and they can make finer cuts then the old Dovetail saws. I learn using those old dovetail saws. funny thing is, I/we rarely use any hand cutting tools anymore but a chisel or a block plane. The one younger guy on our crew was complaining about the lack of a table saw (bone head forgot to take it from shop) so I had to show the dumb ass now to cut a miter piece with a hand saw to finish the toe kick. He was shocked that there are people that can still cut straight with a hand saw. We will see how he works out for us. Hes new, been with us for two months.

I've seen the Japanese saws at HD. I often find the Japanese are pretty clever about a bunch of stuff, so it wouldn't surprise me if these saws are easier or more efficient at least when used by someone that knows how to use them.