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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

And even the wind power is not really green. It takes HUGE amounts of concrete for the foundation, and high tech materials to manufacture the windmill. Transport the components to the site, and the upkeep and maintenance of the windmill his high. They are worn out and need to be replaced before they ever go positive in energy production over the energy needed to put one up.

And we get a landscape covered in ugly windmills. And at night when the winds let up, they are just large aviation hazards. During the day the do a great job of killing lots of birds.

The ultimate irony is that the people who push the hardest for wind energy are the same ones who scream when you try to build them near their house. NIMBY is full of irony. We have lots of them in KS, the farmers say they’re about as good as an oil well in terms of the lease payments. But yes they are expensive, unreliable, and without government incentives are not a break even proposition.