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Originally Posted by Deschodt

Just caught on the thread, no dogs in that fight, but it's true that these days nobody seems to be dying of anything other than Covid anymore. Good news for cancers, heart attacks etc...

The fact is the numbers in the media conflate everything together for scary headlines. Trying to get an accurate breakdown of non covid deaths or no-comorbidities death, or "was gonna die within a week anyway and covid just sped it up" deaths. Impossible. Apparently in nobody's interest - you might be less scared..

I work at a really big university/hospital group, and I see internal numbers or ICU, testing, deaths. Granted I don't do regression analysis on those, I just read them weekly, but I have not seen anyone at our locations dying of Covid that wasn't in seriously bad shape before. I'm sure there are... I'm just saying it's very difficult to get accurate properly broken down data, and fear mongering seems to be in the best interest of some groups for sure.

Our doctors are no longer scared of Covid, they know how to keep you alive now - they are scared because many people don't come in to treat their heart and cancer (etc) conditions right now for fear of covid, and presumably there will be more deaths from that, and in turn these could be attributed to Covid if they happen to catch it on top of not treating their progressing cancers or whatever. Catch 22. Fear mongering wins.

Now I'm not sure if fear mongering is being done to make $ for pharmaceutical groups or because the general population is so stupid they would not even wash hand otherwise. Both probably.

It's not fear mongering when people you know (or take care of) die from it. The latest for me are a husband (62 yo) and his wife (57yo) whom I worked with. Each died a few days apart and both were working the week prior. Both died on ventilators. I'm not afraid of it or I couldn't go to work. But I do have a lot of respect for what it can do to people. Deebo may have died from a reinfection or a pulmonary embolism or pneumonia or something else. We'll see. But that changes nothing about what has happened to an extraordinary number of people in terms of both morbidity and mortality.