[onewhippedpuppy]

Originally Posted by cockerpunk

the point is, that doesn't happen. "societal collapse" doesn't happen, there is always a community to build, and in that community, is safety, food, supplies, skills etc. that is why the best prep you can do for the end of society, is to be ready to make a new one: ie get to know your neighbors.

MadMax isn't real.

Your experience is a localized event that is in no way relevant to this discussion. You were never totally without public services like electricity, water, sewer, and shelter. Public protection like police and fire may not have been prompt (probably because morons think they should be defunded) but they were still there. You were probably 20 minutes from neighborhoods that were 100% not impacted by any of this. Survival.....lol.