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Originally Posted by fintstone View Post
It was the DOJ suing Yale because of clear evidence that Yale intentionally did not admit better qualified Asians solely due to the fact that they were Asian. The Biden DOJ just dropped suit (at the Supreme Court) without justification (alleging discrimination against white and Asian applicants). One can only hope the court still makes a decision.

While some may advantages...anything from being taller or brighter or growing up in a better school district, in the past, we strove to reduce subjectivity with objective measure. That is no longer the case..so we are going backwards...practicing racism using racism as an excuse.
The Asian group suing Harvard lost.

Again, "better qualified" is subjective, especially in college admissions. And the Supreme Court has ruled that private colleges and universities can narrowly discriminate using race as a factor in determining admissions. Haven't read the ruling. I am, for the record, completely against that practice. But I can stand by a broad definition of better qualified for admissions purposes. Because grades alone don't make a whole student. And probably because I myself was a poster child for the whole package having worked 40 hours a week during junior and senior years of high school so I could pay for college myself. What's funny is I applied to Brandeis (80% Jewish, non-sectarian) two weeks after the deadline and was accepted 2 weeks later so the joke always was they needed to fill the Catholic quota. But what is really interesting is I was discrimated against not being Jewish. My 2 other roommates said in no uncertain terms that I should not be there. We got along great! Fun times. That said I still have very dear friends that I talk with regularly from 35 years ago. But being discriminated against is not super fun. At all.

Anyway, the point is Harvard CAN say that Asian kids who excel in X but don't have Y and Z at all are LESS qualified than Black kids who are not so great in X but excellent in Y and Z.

The elephant in the room is, Can flipside systemic racism be used to correct over 2 centuries of system racism? Does social engineering work?

I understand the philosophy especially since "Cycles" are one of my favorite topics to think about. Racism doesn't just end. Oppression is a learned cognitive dissonance passed down from generation to generation with significant environmental influence.

How do you break that cycle? Create a "positive" version of racism to effect social change?

The jury is out on that one and will be for some time.
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