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Originally Posted by 911pcars
Just a few examples to both dispel and expand on your theory:
The early Chinese who helped build the transcontinental railroad were dirt poor. They and those who followed had few rights, no citizenship, unequal pay, limited jobs and living areas. Despite some success, discrimination also prevented land ownership and many job opportunities. More success resulted in being excluded from immigration. It was worse for Native Americans.
Outside of slavery (duration, about 230 years), there was a black community in Tulsa who were financially very successful. All that got them was a torched community and dead citizens.
During WWII, Japanese-Americans (citizens mind you) forfeited their property and incarcerated by our govt.
Nope. Minorities that succeed do so in spite of various degrees of racial discrimination.
Those stories are in history books that aren't abbreviated. Examples continue.
The most hated group in the world? Unknown, maybe Nazis and the like. Not sure. There are many most hated individuals for various reasons. I'm pretty certain being an A-hole is a prerequisite. Being rich may be a factor, but not necessary.
You asked the question. That's MHO.
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Obviously, people have made mistakes throughout history (even when they have had good intentions). Yet, people keep coming here and staying, not the other way around...so we must be doing something right.
For almost each of those historical events...there were two sides, yet you only seem to see one (the movie version). It is easy to laundry list complicated events and make implications that may or may not be true. Each could be an entire thread (book) on its own. For example:
Why did the Chinese come to this country to work? Were they brought as slaves? Did they come as immigrants (with citizenship intent/rights) or as foreign workers? Was it better than what they left (like Irish who fled the potato famine and were also poor and treated poorly)? Why did they stay? Were they trafficked? If they were brought here as essentially "slaves" to undercut wages earned by American citizens already here, should their entry have been prevented (to prevent their mistreatment and the resulting crushing effect on wages for the poor)?
Did armed blacks in Tulsa attack whites/local law enforcement and kill a white person before the full scale rioting took place? Did citizens on both sides of the altercation arm themselves and kill each other? Is it different than Kenosha or Minneapolis last summer? Why?
Did any Japanese Americans side with Japan (and actually kill Americans)? Did they seem a credible threat at the time? Is that typical for the time? Did other countries mistreat ethnic minorities in wartime? Did we treat Jews trying to flee Europe worse?
Why were the Germans so easily pulled onto the Nazi path? Was it because they were treated intolerably after WWI by the victors?
All are complex and inconvenient facts largely glossed over by those that have an agenda. None are bumper sticker level ideas/memes.