[joeclarke]

I disagree with unfixed. It much easier to "go with the flow" and to accept the corporate/government line than to consider the difficult possibility that their actions might be well, plain wrong. Particularily in topics like the Iraq invasion where the consequences are so dire to both them (lives) and us (lives and money) and the basic elements seem so intangible and seem to change from time-to-time.

I see some valid observations and well stated opinions from the lone contrarian voice in this thread. I see only mud tossing and name calling from the other side of the fence. You guys are caught up in emotion - wrapping yourselves in the flag a little too tightly.

Besides, we need contrarians if only to revalidate our closely held views. But history generally proves contrarians to be right most of the time - so tread lightly folk. You don't want to look like an idiot to your grandchildren do you?

As to comparisons of the Saddam circumstance to the Adolph circumstance - get a grip Moneyguy1. That is plainly absurd, without insulting anyones intelligence by discussing military capability relative to their place in history.

Before you point the mud pies in my direction - I'm a card carrying rightwinger - so don't start throwing your liberal epithets at me.

I'm new to this board and re-thinking participation in this section. But the other forums seem great.