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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

No, I did not miss your "point", not in the least. And I began this little tangent by addressing the "point" that both you and Denis were attempting to make - that this is a "gun problem", that it is a problem driven by the presence of so many guns in America. My assertion is that it is not - it is a problem that is very much more pronounced in a certain demographic, the one to which our perp/"victim" belongs.



And you would be absolutely wrong. We have poor white communities, poor Hispanic communities, poor Asian communities, and on and on - poor communities of any race and/or ethnicity you can name. None of them are as violent and murderous as our poor black communities. None. Yes, poverty does demonstrably lead to more crime - that much is undeniable. But the crime rates - particularly violent crime rates - are several fold higher in poor black communities than they are in any other poor communities. Several fold.

So, if you really want the bullets to stop flying, you need to try to understand what created one JaDerek Gray, because there are plenty more where he came from. Quit blaming guns, quit blaming law abiding gun owners. Blame the culture that created and nurtured young Mr. Gray. Find ways to address the problems that have engendered that culture. Until you can do that, another one is going to pop up right behind him, and another young life will be needlessly lost.

Calm down, I’m not disagreeing with you or challenging you to a d@#k measuring contest. I’m talking about this particular situation. I’m talking about people having a shootout on the freeway. I never said anything about banning guns or the like.